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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 4661468)

See, we're already looking to lock up another lifemate. KU fans like their coaching decisions made like old timey royal weddings.

Ok, I laughed.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 4661601)

From what I remember, there were more than a few UNC fans in our same position after he "rejected" them in 2000.

That's an interesting perspective. Hadn't really thought about it like this, but there isn't nearly as much evidence for this, right? In other words, Roy never told UNC fan that he'll either be dead or retired when he left next. Sure they could feel rejected, but not as bamboozled.

Again, if I were Roy I probably would have left to coach UNC, too. I hope I would have handled the situation like a man, though.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4661613)

Again, if I were Roy I probably would have left to coach UNC, too. I hope I would have handled the situation like a man, though.

That's been my point all along. We all knew he'd go there eventually, so why lie about it? I like Roy and always have, but I really hope he and his team lose on Saturday...not so much for Roy's sake, but for Dean Smith. :D

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Originally Posted by Easy Money (Post 4661095)

Bill Self recruited players that Roy could never get (Rush, Collins, etc) so I, too, am happier with Self at the helm.

I'm pretty sure that Roy Williams can recruit as good as anyone. IIRC, the 97 team had 4 1st round NBA picks. In his last year at KU, 2 of his players went in the top 10 in the draft(Hinrich and Collison).

Kirk Hinrich = Best KU guard ever.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 4661511)

Here's another good one.....

http://www.joe-college.com/catalog/i...THPLACE-NC.jpg

pretty funny, NC's last coach suckedROFL

I still like Roy. He's just not near the man I thought he was, that's all.

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4661806)

pretty funny, NC's last coach suckedROFL

Yeah.

All that schmuck did was win about 30 less games in his career than Williams and Self have COMBINED.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4661841)

Yeah.

All that schmuck did was win about 30 less games in his career than Williams and Self have COMBINED.

I think he was referring to Matt Doherty.

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 4661843)

I think he was referring to Matt Daugherty.

Then you're reading something I'm not.

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 4661796)

Kirk Hinrich = Best KU guard ever.

I stole the ball from him and made a contested layup when I was in 7th grade at the Hindman Hobbs Center in Sioux City during a pick up games. I hate clearing out all the stupid voicemails from NBA scouts on my voicemail. Just leave me alone, I don't want to be famous. I just want to adjust claims. Jeez.

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 4661843)

I think he was referring to Matt Daugherty.

true, but it's music to the ears nonetheless, lol.

Lzen--that was from a "net-friend's" blog--I wouldn't want to drive any unwanted traffic ;) if ya know whut I mean. Send me a pm and I'll give you the link. I thought the piece was appropriately complimentary to KU for the most part, albeit with an expected UNC bias.

FWIW-for our part on this side of the Mississippi, we offer a petition for both sides that the loser of Saturdays game throws their support to the winner for the Final..........................................chirp/chirp.

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4661806)

pretty funny, NC's last coach suckedROFL

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4661856)

Then you're reading something I'm not.

NC's last coach was Matt Doherty.

Not sure if mentioned....and probably a dead horse...but here goes..

A small part of me wants to forgive Roy for bolting for UNC. But every time I think about the first time he announced "I'm stayin!" he said he couldnt look into the eyes of the guys he recruited "I couldnt tell Kirk Hinrich, Nick Collison, etc. that I was leaving".

So I call BS on that "Aw shucks" stuff.....if he couldnt tell Kirk and Nick that....why didnt the same apply to Aaron Miles, Wayne Simien, and Keith Langford?

Well spoken.......................................................

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 4661462)

On the off chance that you actually 'don't understand' it.

First off, not sure how you bring something 'back' to respectability a couple years after a national championship. By that reasoning, I guess Florida's on the lookout for someone to bring them back to respectability about now.

Second, this is a matter among the 'elite' programs, those that have been high quality for decades, basically the Kentucky's, UCLAs, Dukes, UNCs, and KUs of NCAA. And UNC gained it's entry into this hall through the efforts of a KU alum, who is now walking around with the attitude that what we grounded him in and what he exported to UNC, now ORIGINATES in UNC.
And while he did the most with his chance, we did give him that chance when he was totally unproven, and we bought in to everything he was selling, and we said our legacy is your legacy, and he was on track to bye our modern John Wooden, then he hears Dean Smith's bullshit, and says 'your legacy is nice and all, but UNC's legacy, now there's a REAL legacy, I think I want THAT legacy.'

Basically, he wasn't a gun for hire. He wasn't a microwave oven to rev us up and send us in a new direction. He and KU formed a marriage, each ostensibly pledging full, unadulterated lifetime support, then he found out his old flame was available.

I expected Roy to leave the first time in 2001. In fact, I was hoping he would leave. I was tiring of the Marty Schottenheimer parallel. I used to scream when they would pan during a KU / Roy Williams basketball game and show Marty in the crowd. The RW defeats at Kansas were legendary and like a hemorrhoid, wiping won’t make it go away.