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Frazod 09-11-2008 03:41 PM
I wish Herm Edwards was our head scout.

I wish Dick Vermeil was our offensive coordinator.

I wish Marty Schottenheimer was our defensive coordinator.

And I wish we had a head coach who would do nothing except not allow the three of them to ever speak to one other.

Tribal Warfare 09-11-2008 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5005887)
I wish Herm Edwards was our head scout.

I wish Dick Vermeil was our offensive coordinator.

I wish Marty Schottenheimer was our defensive coordinator.

And I wish we had a head coach who would do nothing except not allow the three of them to ever speak to one other.
Dick Vermeil originally was a ST coach

mckinger 09-11-2008 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 5004330)
I honestly don't understand all of the Herman Edwards hate. This team is headed in the right direction because of his plan for the team. Are there things about him that are annoying and that he could improve on? Sure. But the program is clearly on the upswing.

There are only three drafted players from the Vermeil era still on this team. LJ, Colquitt, and DJ. Herm was handed a squad of old and shitty players and the team had no direction. Now that Turk and Tank are contributing in a big way, it would be hard for any team to match what he has accomplished with the last three drafts.

More importanly, drafted players don't rot on the bench the way they did with Vermeil. Of course a lot of that had to do with how lousy we drafted under DV. But the point is that, like Marty, Edwards can coach them up and get them ready to play. And the players seem to like playing for Herm.

So while there may be some legitimate complaints about his game day philosophy, his overall approach is solid and is proving to be effective, IMO.
I humbly must agree with this post...I want to enjoy this season and not have it go in the tank like week 8 and on last year. when you look at his picks...they are starting to play some ball...I think the Ingle will be starting by week 5 as well..

Reerun_KC 09-11-2008 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5005841)
ROFL

Armchair coaches.... gotta love it....

"I'm smarterer than Herm!"
ROFL

God I hope you are smarter than Herm... If not, you would need a drool bucket and helmet...

I for one, believe you are smarter than Herm... Your breathing arent you?

Frazod 09-11-2008 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5005903)
Dick Vermeil originally was a ST coach
My point is, when Marty was here, the defense was great, but the offense sucked.

When Dick was here, the offense was great, but the defense COMPLETELY sucked.

And now Herm is here, and despite bringing in talent and dumping dead weight, everything sucks, because he isn't fit to coach lamaze.

Reerun_KC 09-11-2008 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5005962)
My point is, when Marty was here, the defense was great, but the offense sucked.

When Dick was here, the offense was great, but the defense COMPLETELY sucked.

And now Herm is here, and despite bringing in talent and dumping dead weight, everything sucks, because he isn't fit to coach lamaze.
:clap:

Very nice take!

Rep

Fish 09-11-2008 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5005951)
ROFL

God I hope you are smarter than Herm... If not, you would need a drool bucket and helmet...

I for one, believe you are smarter than Herm... Your breathing arent you?
Thanks. But my amusement was in reference to the way people in this thread judge a head football coach. Specifically the simplicity with which they make their judgments.

The "grass is greener" mindset is pretty obvious. And if many people in this thread had their way, we would likely be firing 3/4 of the staff yearly, no matter what the production. As if it were as easy and firing this guy and hiring that guy......

Pasta Little Brioni 09-11-2008 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5006017)
Thanks. But my amusement was in reference to the way people in this thread judge a head football coach. Specifically the simplicity with which they make their judgments.

The "grass is greener" mindset is pretty obvious. And if many people in this thread had their way, we would likely be firing 3/4 of the staff yearly, no matter what the production. As if it were as easy and firing this guy and hiring that guy......
If it were up to the fans nearly EVERY coaching staff in the league would be fired. The coaches don't know squat, but people who sit around and play madden and fantasy football could build a championship in no time. All fan bases do that crap.

penchief 09-11-2008 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5005738)
What culture and attitude did he change?

So you credit him for taking an offensive scoring minded team and turning them into the R2P2 scared shitless Field Goal Bonanza offense?

What has he done exactly with the defense in 3 years? Took them from 32 to middle of the pack in 3 years, but took the offense from top 5 to absolute embarrasing in 2 short years?

And dont come back with the, he lost Roaf Bullshit... Herm has never had a potent offense, nor can he keep a QB healthy with his lack of talent he scouts for his OL's.... He proved that at NY and proving it here...

I am starting to question his scouting abilities as well... When will he start producing ProBowl players, with his "god" like abilities as a NFL Scout?

My feeling is that there were a lot of players on Vermeil's team that were just collecting paychecks. I also don't think there was much of a team mentality. Sure, the offense was high flying but everything centered around the offense. And many of those players were at the end of their careers. I just think there is more team chemistry and a more positive attitude than before. And that usually starts with the head coach.

Look, I don't disagree with some of the specific criticisms that many of you are leveling against Edwards. Could he do a better job game-planning? Sure. Could he be a little less conservative? Sure. All I'm saying is that he should get some credit where credit is due. I don't think he's as bad as some of you are making him out to be. That's all.

Time's Yours 09-11-2008 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5005841)
ROFL

Armchair coaches.... gotta love it....

"I'm smarterer than Herm!"
I don't know more than him about coaching in the NFL, but I F-ing GUARANTEE you that I am smarter than Herm Edwards.

Programmer 09-11-2008 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 5003620)
But if Carl fires him, it is likely that Carl gets to keep his job.
Short lived as it may be.

Carl has this year and maybe next. He will be gone soon enough. Herm needs to go now regardless of what happens to Carl.

Programmer 09-11-2008 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 5006228)
Look, I don't disagree with some of the specific criticisms that many of you are leveling against Edwards. Could he do a better job game-planning? Sure. Could he be a little less conservative? Sure. All I'm saying is that he should get some credit where credit is due. I don't think he's as bad as some of you are making him out to be. That's all.
We b*tched about Marty losing playoff games. He was very aggressive in the regular season but went into the play safe mode in the playoffs. We now have a HC that is in a permanent play safe mode. "We play to win?" "We always need to be within one score in the 4th quarter." "More than 21 points is Arena League Football."

Herm needs to be removed from the HC position now, it will get no better in the future.

ptlyon 09-11-2008 07:54 PM
Is this reallly the best you can do? YOU PAY YOUR MONEY - WHAT DO YOU GET??? The Kinks

smittysbar 09-11-2008 09:07 PM
How would you like to be a QB in the NFL under Herm? His R2P2 Offense, has killed more NFL QB's than Cancer.

milkman 09-13-2008 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5005841)
ROFL

Armchair coaches.... gotta love it....

"I'm smarterer than Herm!"
Here's why most think they are "smarterer" than Herman ****ing Edwards.

This is a quote from the article posted about Herman ****ing Edwards desire to get Jamal Charles more involved.

Quote:
Chiefs rookie running back Jamaal Charles might take on a heavier load, coach Herm Edwards said Friday. With Charles’ speed and the way he played in last week’s loss at New England, Edwards said Charles has to be a factor.

“He needs to touch the ball more,” Edwards said.

Charles, one of the Chiefs’ third-round picks this year, started last week alongside Larry Johnson. Charles averaged 5.6 yards on his five carries and also caught two passes.

Edwards said the Chiefs have to reduce the number of times they go three-and-out, which prevents the team from getting the ball into the hands of playmakers such as Charles. Of the Chiefs’ 11 possessions last week, they went three-and-out four times.
How about you get the ball into the hands of the kid you think is a playmaker, and maybe, just maybe, you might not go three and out.

It's like a guy standing next to a full water cooler with an empty paper cup, saying he can't use that cup because it's empty.

Fill the ****er, and you can use it, dumbass.


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