It would be interesting to see how many QBs came out w/ just three years at school, instead of including guys that redshirted their first year like Big Ben.

Oh great..you know how hard that is going to be to figure out....

It is a mix. I'd say only 3 good QB's - Bledsoe, Rodgers (still undecided, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt) and Roethlisberger.

My primary hesitation with Stafford is his accuracy. Half of his games in 2007 he was under 55% in completion percentage.

And you could say the same thing for all QBs drafted in the 1st round or overall. The QB position is the biggest risk-reward gamble in the draft.

3 of 15 on juniors, or 20%.

If you take senior QB's for the same time period, do you think you'd still be at 20%?

Who else can we trade from our roster for another 1st round pick? Sams?

Probably not, but we should also take out QBs that played on teams with gimmick offenses that boosted their stock. Teams have realized by now that it is best to avoid these guys and not fall in love w/ their stats.

Ok.........

Young redshirted

Roethlisberger redshirted

Rodgers did not redshirt, he played as a freshman at a junior college then transferred to Cal for his sophomore and junior seasons before leaving early.

Bledsoe I don't believe he redshirted but I'm not completely sure on this I'm going with the idea that he didn't.

Vick-redshirted

Couch-didn't redshirt

Russell-didn't redshirt

Maddox-redshirted as he left after his sophomore season

Grossman-redshirted

Marinovich-redshirted

Mirer-didn't redshirt

Ware-I don't believe he redshirted but not completely sure

Shuler-I don't believe he redshirted also not completely sure on this one

Ryan Leaf-didn't redshirt

Alex Smith-didn't redshirt

So there you go, there is the list.

I am a firm believer in the old adage that goes "Without risk, there can be no reward".

I also like Hunter Cantwell.

You have to take into account some things, a couple of those guys were gimmick offense guys, some of them were taken in the middle to the end of the round.

I bet his stock is falling like a rock Louisville is pretty bad this year and he has very few starts under his belt over his career.

The sad thing is that trading a 1st FOR a player has worked out better than trading a player for a first.

Who's that QB (not Rogers) the Packers drafted again? How easy would he be to pry away?...

When you talk about QBs out of "Gimmick" offenses, one needs to look at Tennesee.

Steve McNair came out of the run and shoot, if I remember correctly, and the Oilers/Titans let him sit on the bench for a couple of years, giving him just a few meaningless snaps along the way.

He became a pretty good, albeit overrated, NFL QB.

Vince Young, on the other hand, was given the keys by the middle of his first season, and he wasn't progressing at all.


I think Tim Tebow has the physical tools to be a good NFL QB, but he'll need a couple of years to develop.

Matt Stafford is more NFL ready.

In the end, if Mark Sanchez came out early also, I'd rather have him, cause he just seems to have this indefinable quality that raises the level of play of everyone around him.