Yup.

I was a Herm supporter. I figured his positives would outweigh the negatives.

Nope, wrong.

And I'm not willing to give him 10 ****ing years to put the finishing touches on a rebuild that should have started day 1.

If you're the HC/GM of the Chiefs at that time and didn't see the need to heavily infuse youth and talent you're eating paint chips under power lines and washing it down with antifreeze...

Carl seems to make decisions just to assert his own authority. You don't want to play for my team? Well, let's see how much I can stick it to you then...

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I call bullshit. This has nothing to do with Carl Peterson - this has EVERYTHING to do with Clark Hunt. If Clark had a set of nuts, he would have cleaned house in the front office IMEDIATELY! A great example is Miami - look what a swift changing of the guard has done for that team ala Bill Parcels. I am sooooo ****ing sick of this team right now I could scream. Never have I seen such a cluster **** since day one of being a Chiefs fan. I love this team but I do not understand it's ownership. Kick that grease ball shit head Carl Peterson outta here and his entire staff. Tell him to take the remainder of his contract and shove it up his ass!

Clark should have stepped up to the plate and taken anything for Tony Gonzales -3rd, 4th, hell even a 6th. It is about respecting this calibur of player. Greed stopped this trade and now, you have a pro bowl player who is really pissed off. This is going to get a helluva lot worse friends - big time. I used to love game day - now I just want the season to end and wait for a change that will not come for quite sometime. :shake:

He should have.

Starting with a clean slate (even if the spectres of history tailed him) he should have went with a new GM/HC/Pres...

hopefully Clark realizes what a cluster this team is turning into, and that the town, i mean organization, needs an enema

Pretty much.

Okay ... here's another wacky deal for you ...

This strange person on 810 just said a moment ago that Herm wanted to sit LJ for awhile for "conduct detrimental to the team" and Carl vetoed that idea. Said, "no, you can't do that." Has anyone heard anything about this?

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LMAO

HOLY ****ING SHIT... Now I do feel kind of sorry for Herm...just a little

If he doesnt after this year, id say there is no hope for the man. I even might consider switching allegiance to a different team for awhile.

Sounds like BS.

Marty did the same to DT during the 94 game at mile high. I don't think DT got in the game until about midway into the 2nd quarter.

If true it means Marty had more pull than Herm, not that this would shock anyone...

Carl deserves to be fired immediately for hiring Herm in the first place.

Carl certainly doesn't deserve the blame for all of the recent personnel decisions. We've seen Carl bring in very different types of players depending on who was the head coach. Carl certainly listens to his head coach and tries to bring in the guys the coach asks for. When Gun was head coach the team brought in bigger physical players. Vermeil came on and he got his OL, QB and HB and GROB got his players. Gun came in as DC and got his infamous wish list (a year after saying he didn't need anybody it was just the scheme that wasn't working). Herm came aboard and got rid of the Vermeil offensive players and he brought in a bunch of old Jets and put his stamp on the drafts.

No doubt Carl apparently botched the trade of Tony yesterday, but at the end of the day nobody held a gun to Tony's head when he reupped his contract. He knew the direction of the team and he knew Herms ways when he signed on the dotted line.

The entire organization needed to be blown up when DV retired. Clark had the opportunity to do so when his dad passed away, but like his father Clark has sat passively by the first two years and bought into Herm and Carl.

Each and every person in the organization is to blame from the owner on down.

it obviously wasn't about the pick. Carl thought he could play it cool and get what he wanted, Tony would have to shut up because no one gave them a "reasonable" offer.

Carl and Tony and everyone know he's not a part of the rebuilt future of the team. Carl just doesn't want to be without a star player and draw for the fans in the interim.

He didn't expect to get not one but two reasonable offers. So even though one of them may have been from the team that Tony specifically wanted to go to, Carl decides he'll just say screw you.

What's best for the team in trying to win a championship at some point is not the primary issue to him

tony's contract extension predates Herm and this rebuild business, does it not

It was a bizarre statement. The context was the Gonzo deal and the attendant conflict between the two Morons In Charge.

One would think that, were it really true, it would be a bigger story ... Mr. BigRedChief needs to clear this up.

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