All the above is true ... We suck at the Oline-Lbakers-Safty-Coaching-Drafting ... Thats a lot too heal .. Hunt has to change the direction of this ship or his team will sink to the bottom and stay there ...

I think Huard wasn't his decision. He was given a pretty decent contract to be the back up. I guess Herm didn't anticipate that Brokie would be broken all the time. He knows now (maybe) that he needs two if not three new QB's.

Job security with the Chiefs is unparalleled. Nowhere else in the world can one be so disasterously awefull and still rest assured they have a job in the morning, next week, hell even a year later. I know less about running a pro football organization than just about anyone alive over the age of twelve. I admit that. And I'm certainly no coach... maybe I could get a job working for the Chiefs. Rack up a few cool million over a decade or so and retire before I'm thirty-five. I certainly don't think I'd be any worse than the powers that be currently. And even if I were... what's the difference?! It's impossible to be fired if you work for this organization. Where do I submit my resume?

Hopefully, this latest blowout will make Herm defenders an endangered species. Anyone who follows the NFL knows what we are witnessing now is not the standard rebuilding through the draft model.

Looking at the stats, not just W-L, but dig deeper, and you will find that the 2007 Chiefs are one of the worst teams in the last ten years. For instance, based on power rankings, we are the worst team since the 2004 SF 49ers, coached by Dennis Erickson. Question: did Dennis Erickson ever get it turned around, and win a SB? **** no. Make the playoffs? Can't remember, but don't think so. Only with bad NFL coaches like Erickson and Herm Edwards can your team be so completely inept. Go back further, and find similarly bad teams (not record-wise, but utterly being dominated teams), and you simply won't find coaches who turned it around. They were fired, and their NFL careers were over.

I just don't think some of you guys on here realize how bad we are. Herm Edwards is not just a bad coach, he is a stunningly bad coach.

[Edit: and just to preempt against the inevitable 1989 Cowboys comparison -- look at the raw stats -- they were nowhere near as bad as this.]

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

Typical

I may be missing a point here but Marty is long gone.

That's nonsense.

He was taken third overall in 1988 and missed several games due to a very severe infection (urinary tract, IIRC).

:cuss: it CARL! Now that prick's gonna show up on OUR damn door step!
Just one more reason the Chiefs suck! :cuss:

Yeah, because so many people have been defending him before now.

The point was, he was talented but the 1st coaching staff sucked and couldn't develop him so he didn't show any till Marty came in. It's basically trying to draw a parallel saying maybe these guys are the same, talented but the coaching staff is holding them back.

I think it's telling that you rarely see a 2nd move from any of our lineman. If the Olineman stones their first move they're done.

It's a dwindling number, for sure. Is Zouk still defending Herm?

Zouk and Boris are huddling up for one final Herm defensive stand.

That Chiefzilla guy was defending Herm yesterday.

They will start off in a "Vermeil left the cupboard dry" formation for first down, and then switch to a zone "what do you expect when your starting QB gets injured" for second down and then finally get beat deep on "it's all Carl Peterson's fault."

That's simply a statement of fact, it doesn't have anything to do with defending herm.

I don't even think Vermiel should be brought up at this point it's 4 years later now.