Thats what Herms wife has said!! honey are you there? Hermie baby your to soft!!

Well I appreciate your loyalty to Herm, but dont be such a tool here...

I didnt say that every player in the NFL is lazy, I said "players like soft training camps and practices, less they have to exert to earn that paycheck".

What person in America wants to work their assess off when they can relax a little and still get paid?

I wonder if Kawika Mitchell preferred the soft Herm approach on a bad team, the drill sergeant approach of Coughlin with a Super Bowl ring, or the middle of the pack white guy coach with Jauron on an up and coming team?

I just clicked on one of the links in the main article and I am very surprised.

The players ranked Coughlin 31 out of the 32 head coaches. They had Linehan, Kiffen, Childress, Marinelli and Petrino all above him. Hell, Mike Nolan is ahead of Jauron and McCarthy.

They also have KC ranked as a better organization than the NYG.

I guess that is proof that players care more about paychecks, and an easy work schedule that winning games...I bet Marty was DEAD LAST when he was a coach

My point was that a lot of players got to where they are because of how hard they work in practice. They want to work hard everyday. Some skilled players come by their talent naturally, and can effortlessly glide through practice without needing the constant work and improvement. But the majority have to bust their asses day in and day out to stay on top of their game. Some of these guys would be at a disadvantage in soft practices.

It sounded like you were lumping all players into the same mindset as to what they would want from practice.

No I wasnt, but your brought up a great point..

I agree, you cant take a dedicated athelete and a true professional and put him on a staff with Herm and expect them not to falter or fail.

There has to be a fine line between too much (DV) or no clue (Herm) on practices.

I do agree, they have worked hard to get there, but knowing that you are getting serious jack to take a lighter load in practice, I doubt many would turn that down....

Psssst, Johnny come over here, I need to tell you all the dirt on your POS coach. Dude, I know we've just barely met but that Herm Edwards is one really terrible coach. You should find a new team immediately and since the $100 you spend every 3 years on NFL merchandise will directly impact my own paycheck we'd sure like to have you with the Ravens. How about a care package? /Billick

There's a subtle difference between "best coach" and "coach players want to play for".

This Keg guy gets it.

Apparently 50 odd people in KC think that way :D

I don't know whether the criticism for Herm's practices is justified or not, as I've never seen his normal non-public practices. But I do know that DV was doing something right, as was displayed by his team's effectiveness at offensive execution. They ran that shit till they were perfect at it. And I know that wore on some players such as Roaf.

I don't think that the majority are looking for the easy money maker though. You have to have a certain dedication level to even get to where they are. I doubt that laziness and looking for the easy ride would keep a guy in the league for very long...

Could it be that players take a beating day in, day out, and think it's ridiculous to take 3 hours to practice when you can accomplish the same thing in 90 minutes?

But they didn't accomplish the same thing.

they know Herm is and idiot
and can be used like Redrum's mom