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Mr. Flopnuts 11-16-2008 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Grand Poobah (Post 5225755)
Gun will positively not be back next year. Unless he moves down to linebackers coach, which knowing Gun, he may.
**** that. He needs to go. Love the fire, hate everything else.

teedubya 11-16-2008 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5225745)
Except for the Bunting part, because that implies that he's fine with Herman ****ing Edwards as the HC (which, of course we know that he is).

I'm dreaming of a giant enema at Arrowhead.
This TEAM needs an enema!

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milkman won't get this joke, because he doesn't watch movies. skip towne won't be able to see this writing, because he needs new bifocals

chiefzilla1501 11-16-2008 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5225745)
Except for the Bunting part, because that implies that he's fine with Herman ****ing Edwards as the HC (which, of course we know that he is).

I'm dreaming of a giant enema at Arrowhead.
You know where I stand on that. I do think Herm is on the blame chain. Right now, I have it at:

#1) Carl Peterson
#2) Carl Peterson
#3) Gunther Cunningham
#4) Carl Peterson
#5) Herm Edwards

I just think Peterson and Gun were big problems well before Herm rolled into town. That's not to say Herm isn't to blame, but I think he's a much smaller problem than those two guys. Like I've always said, I'm fine with Herm in 2009, but I really, really hope he has a very, very short leash in 2009.

chiefzilla1501 11-16-2008 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Grand Poobah (Post 5225755)
Gun will positively not be back next year. Unless he moves down to linebackers coach, which knowing Gun, he may.
Our LBs have gotten really bad under his watch. Time to cut him loose entirely.

BigRock 11-16-2008 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5225726)
There are those that would argue that Herman ****ing Edwards cuffed him, and didn't allow him to open up until he got desperate.
People can say that about the playcalling all they want. But about the offense in general, it's a moot point. Was Georgia Tech out there running the spread in Gailey's six some years on campus? It's not like this kind of offense is what he does.

He deserves credit for doing a good job of adapting to it. But adapting at a point when he had no real choice and didn't have much to lose isn't a reason to hold him up for praise.

FringeNC 11-16-2008 10:16 PM
Do Gun or Herm really KNOW anything? It seems they are strictly motivational speakers.

milkman 11-16-2008 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5225787)
Do Gun or Herm really KNOW anything? It seems they are strictly motivational speakers.
They really are motivational speakers.

Everytime they open thier mouths, I get the urge to kill.

L.A. Chieffan 11-16-2008 10:18 PM
Gailey sucks as much as Goon. He flat out sucks , Herm sucks, Carl sucks, Gun sucks, Clark sucks, everything sucks.

FringeNC 11-16-2008 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5225781)
But adapting at a point when he had no real choice and didn't have much to lose isn't a reason to hold him up for praise.
Successfully masking talent deficiencies is nothing to scoff at. This is the best 4-game stretch for the offense since the Vermeil era.

Direckshun 11-16-2008 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5225264)
It's taken Herm and Gunther three seasons to fix the defense, and they aren't even close to getting there.

It took Gailey one offseason, a few shit games and suddenly our offense is respectable despite an inaccurate n00b at QB, a terrible right tackle and a wide receiver corps that's held together with spit and baling wire.

Does anyone else find it ironic that we've been trying to fix the defense for years, it was made out to be some huge ordeal, and Gailey essentially fixes the offense in a fraction of the time?

Makes Gunther's speeches about "changing the culture" sound like a load of bullshit. Gailey's innovation over the last month has been refreshing. Obviously, I still think the spread is a gimmick, and we need a new quarterback to run a real offense, but I have NO DOUBT when that piece is in place, Gailey is the right guy to go about running it. The pistol today was also a neat little wrinkle.

Anyway, Gailey is awesome.
I'm pretty much on boards.

blueballs 11-16-2008 10:24 PM
Herm can go to the CFL
and coach the icebacks

Hammock Parties 11-16-2008 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5225709)
If Gailey was so awesome, the Chiefs would have started the season running this type of offense
Come on. There's no way Herm would have allowed that. Imagine this conversation.

Herm: So, Chan, I hear you like to run the ball. Do you play to do that here?

Chan: No, Herm. I've reviewed our personnel and don't think they're suited for that type of offense. We need to spread out the defense, become a pass-first offense and use the running game as a complement. We'll be in the shotgun a lot, a lot of throws on first down. Larry Johnson will have to come off the field a lot because he's not really suited for this kind of offense.

Herm: Thanks for coming, Chan. We'll be in touch. Carl, can you get me Paul Hackett on speed dial?

Hammock Parties 11-16-2008 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5225797)
This is the best 4-game stretch for the offense since the Vermeil era.
You're forgetting the Damon Huard era...

L.A. Chieffan 11-16-2008 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5225805)
Come on. There's no way Herm would have allowed that. Imagine this conversation.

Herm: So, Chan, I hear you like to run the ball. Do you play to do that here?

Chan: No, Herm. I've reviewed our personnel and don't think they're suited for that type of offense. We need to spread out the defense, become a pass-first offense and use the running game as a complement. We'll be in the shotgun a lot, a lot of throws on first down. Larry Johnson will have to come off the field a lot because he's not really suited for this kind of offense.

Herm: Thanks for coming, Chan. We'll be in touch. Carl, can you get me Paul Hackett on speed dial?
Are you Eric Draven or wtf just happened?

LiL stumppy 11-16-2008 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5225328)
Well, he thought Brodie Croyle was good. That should tell you something about his evaluation abilities.
Croyle was playing good. Ws just made of glass.


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