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The Bad Guy 12-16-2008 06:07 PM

I would also be for the scenario that OTW said. Ryan could help get Suggs here.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2008 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302546)
We don't have rush backers for a 3-4....and if anyone suggest Tamba Hali as a rush backer I'll back hand them.

It's not a huge deal because we need a bunch of new front 7 players and pass rushers either way.

So you draft them and sign them in FA. This isn't a short term deal, we're looking long-term.

And like you said, out front 7 needs an overhaul anyway.

Now is the time.

Mecca 12-16-2008 06:09 PM

We'd have to find a nose tackle, that would probably be the biggest thing.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5302554)
We don't have Haloti Ngata. He's one of the five most valuable defensive players in the league. He lets that defense do anything it wants because he's such a friggin monster.

Doesn't mean we couldn't acquire someone like him. It's not gonna be perfect right out of the box.

But like I said, if your going to do it, now is the time, since you need to blow up the front 7 anyway.

And again, Ryan has experience in the 4-3 and 4-6 as well.

Bringing him in does not guarantee the 3-4 being implemented. He'd take a look at the current personnel, and move forward accordingly.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5302565)
Doesn't mean we couldn't acquire someone like him. It's not gonna be perfect right out of the box.

But like I said, if your going to do it, now is the time, since you need to blow up the front 7 anyway.

And again, Ryan has experience in the 4-3 and 4-6 as well.

Bringing him in does not guarantee the 3-4 being implemented. He'd take a look at the current personnel, and move forward accordingly.

Is it worth it to you to basically give up on Dorsey after one year?

KChiefs1 12-16-2008 06:11 PM

GM - Eric DeCosta
HC - in this order:

Bill Cowher -- If, as expected, he chooses to peel off his TV persona and end his two-year hiatus from the sideline, the former Steelers coach will essentially have his pick of the openings. Cleveland would roll out the red carpet for him, and Detroit could be an intriguing possibility as well.

• Steve Spagnuolo -- The Giants defensive coordinator will be in high demand for a second-consecutive offseason, especially if New York rides the wave all the way to another Super Bowl appearance. St. Louis is one team known to be in the market for a defensive-oriented head coach.

• Jim Schwartz -- After strong interviews last offseason in Washington, Miami and Atlanta, Schwartz is nearly assured of parlaying the success of Tennessee's defense into a No. 1 job this time around. He's smart, articulate, extremely well prepared, and his coaching pedigree includes having worked for both Bill Belichick and Jeff Fisher.

• Josh McDaniels -- The Patriots 32-year-old offensive coordinator has only enhanced his résumé this season, proving he can craft successful game plans with or without league MVP Tom Brady at quarterback. It might take just the right situation for McDaniels to leave Foxboro, but I could see the Chargers, led by Patriots-envying general manager A.J. Smith, being an enticing option.

• Jason Garrett -- No surprise here, but if the curtain falls on the Wade Phillips era in Dallas, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones will toss the keys to Garrett, who he kept away from both Baltimore and Atlanta last offseason with just such a plan of succession in mind.

Bowser 12-16-2008 06:14 PM

I want no part of Jason Garrett here.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302562)
We'd have to find a nose tackle, that would probably be the biggest thing.

Tank Johnson is a FA.

He's not a long-term solution, but it'd be a start.

wazu 12-16-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 5302480)
I don't know enough to have an opinion.

I feel the same way as far as specifics, but have some basic rules I hope Clark follows. So far he has said he is going to follow all the things I had for GM.

My Thoughts:

GM

1. Nobody from within the organization
2. No coaches who want to become GMs (a la Schottenheimer)

Coach

1. Search the pro ranks for a top assistant (like McDaniels)
2. Cowher is the only "retread" that sounds good at all.
3. Pick somebody smarter than Shanahan. (Unless it's Cowher. I don't think he's smarter than Shanahan, but he's good anyway.)

chiefzilla1501 12-16-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302546)
We don't have rush backers for a 3-4....and if anyone suggest Tamba Hali as a rush backer I'll back hand them.

It's not a huge deal because we need a bunch of new front 7 players and pass rushers either way.

Exactly We need two new pass rushers anyway, and rush backers are a hell of a lot easier to find than a stud DE who can both rush the passer AND stop the run AND guard the pass.

chiefzilla1501 12-16-2008 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5302571)
Is it worth it to you to basically give up on Dorsey after one year?

You wouldn't. Dorsey would do just fine as a 3-4 DE.

RedThat 12-16-2008 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302562)
We'd have to find a nose tackle, that would probably be the biggest thing.

Ahhh I say Just frikk'n keep feeding those guys some sick diets.

Its not hard for a Dlineman to gain weight?

All we need is a nice 370 pound pig.

They gotta feed one of those guys Ron Edwards, Alphonso boone, or even Glenn Dorsey? they're all pig potential.

Simple eat 6 meals a day.

Breakfast get up eat a carton of eggs with a pack of bacon. with a loaf of bread and a bucket of orange juice.

then for snacks, 1 dozen of krispy creme donuts with a 2 litres of pop

lunch, 1 whole turkey with a bucket of potatoes and 2 bowls of salad. AND a 6 pack of beer.

Then snacks again, 1 dozen of krispy creme donuts

dinner, 75-100 chicken wings with a bucket of fries

snacks again, 5 bags of chips

1 whole chocolate cake before bed

follow this for a 1 month and they'll put on 30 pounds easy. Thats they gotta do. And were worried about finding a NT? Come on now!

RedThat 12-16-2008 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5302586)
You wouldn't. Dorsey would do just fine as a 3-4 DE.

i think so too

Direckshun 12-16-2008 06:20 PM

I'm okay with DeCosta, but Polian is exactly where I am at all times. There is no better way to embrace the man's model than by picking him up personally.

As for HC... Rex Ryan is not a good fit for me, because he's still primarily a 3-4 guy. I prefer the 4-3 over the 3-4, and guys who have to make the transition from the latter to the former can struggle. And I think it would simply take too many years to transition this defense to the 3-4. What are we talking about -- a minimum of four years, at LEAST. I know Ryan's worked with multiple defenses, but he prefers the 3-4, he's worked with it primarily for years, so he's out for me.

McDaniels is overrated, as I believe much of the Patriots front office is, because that whole organization has made a career out of unusual personnel moves that are simply too risky to work for us.

Steve Spagnuolo is my favorite HC prospect right now. The pass rush that his expertise has engineered is one of the top three in the league.

I'm willing to have sex with my mother if it meant grabbing Polian and Spagnuolo as a result, but I'm happy enough with Polian, if we can somehow work him over here. Yet another reason why I support keeping Herm for a little while -- his relationship with Dungy just might make this franchise attractive to Polian.

The Franchise 12-16-2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 5302572)
GM - Eric DeCosta
HC - in this order:

• Jim Schwartz -- After strong interviews last offseason in Washington, Miami and Atlanta, Schwartz is nearly assured of parlaying the success of Tennessee's defense into a No. 1 job this time around. He's smart, articulate, extremely well prepared, and his coaching pedigree includes having worked for both Bill Belichick and Jeff Fisher.

This.


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