Y'know what's really sad?

Harry uses this clown as a source.

Dude I can play you like a harp.. This is so so easy. A few strokes of the keys and you are hanging on like a fish...

has ANYONE paid any attention to tank and dorsey these last few weeks? tank has looked pretty good and dorsey was doubleteamed most plays last week, hell last week the de's FINALLY made the most of the double on dorsey

Well then Herm is as good as gone if he really said that and meant it. You never know what they really mean and what they are saying to appear professional?

I don't mind going to a spread O, I really don't. Maybe more shotgun as opposed to Pistol but a spread O does give a shitty O-line more of a chance.

Agree 100%, I am just throwing crap out there and watching Dane take the bait...

Ok, Dane. Let's talk about the original point, though. Why does Herm get a pass for his defense, while Grandpa, the offensive mastermind, could take a shit unit to top-tier in the same amount of time? Both had to "battle" the evil Carl...

At some point, the QB must be able to go under center and be successful. When Thigpen shows he can do this, I'll be more open to the spread, or whatever they're going to call it, being the primary option.

I know the one catch he made that took what, 4 guys to take him down?

I think Franklin can be a great slot WR and maybe a #2 if Bradley or Bowe went down.

I don't know that I agree with that 100%. I would like to give the kid at least a full off-season to practice that stuff and with a line that can also play that style. Obviously the first what, 6-7 games showed us our O-line has a problem blocking when we line up under center.

Also, I could see Thigy being good under center if we incorporate the bootleg style of O the Donks used with Jake.

Dude is going to have to show more consistency with his accuracy.

Right now, I just don't see him as a complete player. I could be wrong, though, and he might continue to develop now that he is truly considered a legit possibility.

I would cut him a little extra slack just because of the way he ended up being the starter. But yes, if it does not improve we have a problem with Thigy.

6-26.

I don't care what direction you view this team is headed, when you're 6-24, you don't deserve any benefit of the doubt. Your ass should be fired.

Romeo Crennell found some defensive talent too in Cleveland with Wimbley, McDonald, Sean Jones, Andra Davis, but you don't see Cleveland fans clamoring for him to return.

Great point.

Have the Chiefs traded their Top 12 pick for a defensive player?

Did they sign the best defensive player in free agency?

Have they traded for a Hall of Famer?

Did the Chiefs already have TWO established 9-Time Pro-Bowlers on the defense in place?

The Chiefs acquired Green, Holmes, Roaf and Weigeman.. They already had Shields, Waters and Gonzales.

Clearly, Vermeil's offense and Edwards defense are mutually exclusive.

Well, they have spent the bulk of their top draft choices on defense. The D-line, which most of us think is pretty shitty, is composed of two 1's, a 2, and a 3. It's sucked.

We have spent a significant amount of FA money on LB's, which are worse than the line. Most of the team's resources have gone to improving the D, but it still sucks. And Herm is a defensive-minded coach.

Admittedly, the team traded its best defensive player, who, ironically, was drafted under DV's watch.

I'm not even asking for Herm's defense to be on par with DV's offenses, but it's not even close. DV, whom I didn't like by the way, generated a #1. Herm has helped assemble a #32.