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kcxiv 12-29-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337490)
JaMarcus Russell playing better than the QB of our team and the Raiders having a better record should put all of his in perspective for the some who don't seem to see it.

I would agree, if Jamarcus was actually winning games for them. He's not. Its their running game. We have none. Thats not Tylers fault. Hell, we havent had a solid running game in 2 years. Raiders are winning because of their running game and their defense isnt 31st in the league.

I dont give a **** if Tyler is the starter or not next year. Thats not for me to decide, the coaches and Gm will take care of all of that, but saying the Raiders have a better record because of their QB is just stupid.

Brock 12-29-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337504)
I don't even like JaMarcus Russell but when the team that we have all made fun of a million times dumbass fat QB is better than ours that puts perspective on this.

With the very slight difference that the Chiefs didn't piss away a NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK on theirs.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5337505)
I would agree, if Jamarcus was actually winning games for them. He's not. Its their running game. We have none. Thats not Tylers fault. Hell, we havent had a solid running game in 2 years. Raiders are winning because of their running game and their defense isnt 31st in the league.

I dont give a **** if Tyler is the starter or not next year. Thats not for me to decide, the coaches and Gm will take care of all of that, but saying the Raiders have a better record because of their QB is just stupid.

The Raiders are playing the way Herm Edwards said he wanted the Chiefs to play....it's really bizarre to be honest.

petegz28 12-29-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5337488)
Again...I would think the Chiefs will lean towards FA and the draft, to assure themselves that money man gets protected.

Granted the O-line was less than stellar this year, but I can't say for certain, that a rookie would automatically be injured like you imply.

I think anyone, rookie or otherwise, will get inured with this line if we go under center. Our entire right side cannot block for an under center offense.

kcxiv 12-29-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337517)
The Raiders are playing the way Herm Edwards said he wanted the Chiefs to play....it's really bizarre to be honest.

They ended their season on a positive note no doubt. Thats what i wanted to see from the Chiefs, but we collapsed. I said i just want to see the team win a few games at the end of the season and for the team to be getting better. It didnt happen. We showed only flashes at time, but then after them flashes HUGE HUGE mistakes. Its like they take 1 step forward then go right back to where they were.

Anyways, We will see what happens.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337525)
I think anyone, rookie or otherwise, will get inured with this line if we go under center. Our entire right side cannot block for an under center offense.

I don't agree with that plenty of guys take hits and don't get hurt...the Chiefs just happen to have injury prone QB's...cmon Croyle and Huard?

The_Doctor10 12-29-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5337362)
Will we win a superbowl with Thiggy pen?

You didn't win a Super Bowl with Trent green, Joe Montana, Warren Moon... Defences, kids. If you have a defence that can make stops and your offense puts up points on a consistent basis and your coaches aren't frickin morons, you win. Period.

KCChiefsMan 12-29-2008 04:45 PM

After the past few weeks I'm for a QB, Stafford or Bradford would be great.

The_Doctor10 12-29-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5337507)
With the very slight difference that the Chiefs didn't piss away a NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK on theirs.

This.

petegz28 12-29-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337535)
I don't agree with that plenty of guys take hits and don't get hurt...the Chiefs just happen to have injury prone QB's...cmon Croyle and Huard?

How many games do we have to play with getting one 1st down in a half before you realize our O-line cannot block for an under center style O?

How many times prior to the spread were we in 3rd and 8+ as opposed to 3rd and less than 5?

Our O-line simply cannot block for an under center offense. They needed the spread worse than Thigpen did, imo.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 5337536)
You didn't win a Super Bowl with Trent green, Joe Montana, Warren Moon... Defences, kids. If you have a defence that can make stops and your offense puts up points on a consistent basis and your coaches aren't frickin morons, you win. Period.

That's way to simplistic it requires a mix, you aren't gonna win the bowl with a great defense and a game manager offense either, reference the Chiefs 90s for that.

kcxiv 12-29-2008 04:49 PM

I seen a few times where it took Thigpen a few seconds to collect himself before he got up. He's much tougher then Broken Croyle or Damon Huard, but even the best QB's in the league can get hurt. Our oline just increases the chances big time.

I thing that pisses me off is that when we run the ball, last year and this year, is when the RB gets the ball, there is already 1-3 defenders that are already penetrated into our backfield. It happens so many times, i sit there and am like wow. WTF seriously. Then i see the other team on 3rd and 1 or 4 and one fall forward for 4 yards. lol

Its embarrassing.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337552)
How many games do we have to play with getting one 1st down in a half before you realize our O-line cannot block for an under center style O?

How many times prior to the spread were we in 3rd and 8+ as opposed to 3rd and less than 5?

Our O-line simply cannot block for an under center offense. They needed the spread worse than Thigpen did, imo.

That means you think the Chiefs have some of the worst talent in the history of the game then because even 0-16 Detroit lined up normally.

petegz28 12-29-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337554)
That's way to simplistic it requires a mix, you aren't gonna win the bowl with a great defense and a game manager offense either, reference the Chiefs 90s for that.

Tell that to Baltimore or Pittsburgh.

blueballs 12-29-2008 04:51 PM

JaMarcus - V Young - M Vick -T Jackson
may open the black QB debate again
how's the Redskins QB doing


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