I'm thinking he's a 2nd right now.

were NOT trading Dorsey. sweet jesus, there are some serious fair weather's on this board. :shake: you guys think that one guy one a crap defense can make them good. a lack of sacks wasnt Glenn's fault. he took the double teams .... its not his fault our ends run like molasses going uphill.

p.s. IDC if that makes me a homer. :toast: ill drink to the i told you so's once we get better coaching and actually use him to his strengths.

exactly what i was thinking.... if spag is actually coming, i'm pretty damn sure we'll be 4-3 (which i think would be for the best)

I dunno, maybe this is why they played Dorsey head up on a lineman all year. Sure they were setting him up for failure, but they may have been seeing if he was capable of playing a full season as a 3-4 DE.

I'm sure Gun NEVER wanted to run the cover 2. It's not his style, Gun like to be aggressive.

So you think he's lost 2/3rds to 3/4ths of his value since draft day? That's a pretty steep discount for a guy that has only played one year with bad coaching and in the wrong role.

QFT

You might want to go back over some game film. He wasn't doubled all that much, for good reason, they didn't have to.

That is pretty ignorant of a coaching staff to set up a rookie for failure. Good way to ruin an otherwise perfectly good lineman.

I haven't given up on Dorsey at all. But if we go to a 3-4, you have to ask the question of whether he has more value in a trade or more value possibly playing out of position.

If we stick with the 4-3, I'm just as high on Dorsey as I always was.

I agree.

There's an outside chance some team with nothing to lose might float a late first our way.

But for the most part, most teams are simply going to see Dorsey as too small (even though I think he's fine) and not strong enough to warrant a 1st.

He has a shitload of potential, so if the Chiefs are smart they'll make it a conditional. And of course, he has a decade of a career ahead of him. Absolutely nobody knows what he could become, and Carl's record with high round DTs sucks ass.

That's why you hate to trade young players this young into their contract. Most teams don't like what they've seen in Dorsey, and Carl's record is too spotty to warrant a 1st. A 2nd is more dispensible.

Anyone seriously entertaining trading Dorsey needs to STFU.

cdcox, i can live with that. i jsut cant stand the bust talk. was his season spectacular....no but was he bad enough to cut him regardless of his draft position..heck no.

That part is just crazy. He was rated as one of the top college players on every single draft board a year ago. Every one knew what his size and strength were.

ill send the rep horse into your town Basileus :toast:

If we carry over 8 players into 2012 (three years from now) I'll be shocked. Dorsey might be one of them. Right now, I'd only bet on Bowe, Albert, and Flowers.