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kysirsoze 01-15-2009 02:24 PM

Great post. I was worried about the possibility of holding onto Herm for one more year while Pioli gets familiar with the roster and such but your points make a lot of sense.

I think his scant praise for Herm was a way of firing Herm with class. That way when he lets him go it's not as obviously for incompetance and just because the organization is going in a different direction.

kysirsoze 01-15-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5393993)
I watched it this morning, and that last exchange you mentioned kind of bothered me.

Your take will hopefully shed some light.

It left me feeling like Clark is carrying a heavy hand over Scott, and Scott needs to get approval on everything. He actually said that, that Clark would know everything and be involved before anything was done. In fact, Scott kept looking over to Clark for approval signals on things he was saying.

Scott is the expert here, not Clark, Clark just has the money. Lamar sure never operated that way.


I disagree. It's just a matter of respect. If people asked Belichick if the Crafts would be kept involved I suspect he would say something similar, purely out of respect and in an effort to maintain a good working relationship. Notice Pioli never said anything about deferring to Hunt's judgement. Just that Clark would know about the decisions.

kysirsoze 01-15-2009 02:29 PM

godammit, I'm always late on threads!!! I must have the last post on half the threads on here. Gotta learn to strike while the iron's hot!

HemiEd 01-15-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5394015)
I disagree. It's just a matter of respect. If people asked Belichick if the Crafts would be kept involved I suspect he would say something similar, purely out of respect and in an effort to maintain a good working relationship. Notice Pioli never said anything about deferring to Hunt's judgement. Just that Clark would know about the decisions.

I hope you are right.

EyePod 01-15-2009 04:24 PM

Two weeks is wayyyyy too long for Herm to stay (if he's going to be fired). The Senior Bowl stuff starts next week. If it gets done, it's done before then. I'd say tomorrow at the latest.

PunkinDrublic 01-15-2009 04:46 PM

Just remember to say hello to Herm next time you're at arrowhead and he's directing you to your parking spot.

rtmike 01-15-2009 05:46 PM

I was watching the interview and couldn't help but get goose pimples a few times.

You know, I'm a little sick of the locals laughing at me when I wear my Chiefs red. Especially coming from folks in this state. But I will remember every one of them when the tide's turned.

It's a proud day to be a Chiefs fan. Our future looks very bright. Thank you Mr. Hunt.

whoman69 01-15-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5393469)
i think Herm is still around for 2 reasons

1. Clark likes him
2. Herm will be the "rooney rule" candidate as Herm will interview to keep his job.

Clark likes him, but has promised Pioli control over football operations. I would like to see the DC from Minnesota interviewed.

KChiefs1 01-15-2009 06:15 PM

http://www.google.com/images/cleardot.gifhttp://books.google.com/books?id=rUF...um=5&ct=result

OnTheWarpath15 01-15-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 5394949)
Clark likes him, but has promised Pioli control over football operations. I would like to see the DC from Minnesota interviewed.

Frazier looks to be the favorite in STL, now that Haslett has been told he's no longer being considered.

KChiefs1 01-15-2009 06:28 PM

http://www.bookrags.com/studyguide-p...apanal010.html

Coach 01-15-2009 07:16 PM

I would be curious to see what Pioli will do. It has been well established in here the both Pioli and Edwards' philosophy does not match. However, the issue here is that Clark was really wanting to keep Herm around for another year, for whatever unknown reasons.

To me, it makes more sense to let Herm walk, and get the available coaches that are out there (Spagnuolo, Frazier, Ryan, etc.) so that the new coach can implement his own assistants and his system, and get the players that both matches Pioli and the coach's philosophy in 2009, and depending on the Draft and FA signings, that this year should show some (hopefully) improvement, with the goal of contending for the playoffs in 2010, along with the fact that Arrowhead Stadium will be fully remodeled, which would really energize the fan base.

If Herm is retained, and bombs out again (this is very probable, since the man can't coach, along with his assistants), then the Chiefs just completely wasted a year.

Of course, there are one year wonders that can occur (see Smith, Sparano) so that could be a possibility.

Amnorix 01-15-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5393898)
I can't remember who made the comment in the book, BB or SP, but they knew that Brady would be their starter within a year or two.

I think it's commonly believed by most Patriot "experts" that Brady would've been the starter at teh start of '02 even if Bledsoe hadn't gotten hurt, and possibly earlier than that, depending on how 2001 went.

Of course, it's impossible to say for sure, and many Patriots fans would've been in riot. I'm amazed to this day how bitter the Brady/Bledsoe debate was even after 2001. :eek:

Amnorix 01-15-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5393910)
Sounds like there's gonna be a ton of people bitching on this board...

...only this time we select Richard Seymour instead of Bernard ****ing Pollard...

...FYI I don't know if you guys were bitching about Seymour, just throwing a name out there.

Some were. Famously, Boston Globe sportswriter Ron Borges trashed the pick, saying how stupid they wre to take a guy from Georgia with only 1.5 (or whatever) sacks his senior year instead of a real stud like WR David Terrel. ROFL

Here's the good news -- Pioli could honestly not give a **** what any of you fans think. The Belichick way is that THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING, and you have no ****ing idea what you are talking about.

Of course, if you get results on the field, then you're fine. If not, then you will be excoriated, and the media will crucify you because you don't work to get them to love you.

SAUTO 01-15-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5395164)
Some were. Famously, Boston Globe sportswriter Ron Borges trashed the pick, saying how stupid they wre to take a guy from Georgia with only 1.5 (or whatever) sacks his senior year instead of a real stud like WR David Terrel. ROFL

Here's the good news -- Pioli could honestly not give a **** what any of you fans think. The Belichick way is that THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING, and you have no ****ing idea what you are talking about.

Of course, if you get results on the field, then you're fine. If not, then you will be excoriated, and the media will crucify you because you don't work to get them to love you.

not in kc. our media are a bunch of pussies


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