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Uncle_Ted 02-02-2009 07:41 PM

Pioli has no doubt already brow-beat the NFL into repealing the Rooney Rule -- he just hasn't given them permission to tell anyone yet.

TinyEvel 02-02-2009 07:43 PM

Can we count Herm's exit interview?

chop 02-02-2009 07:51 PM

I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

DaFace 02-02-2009 08:01 PM

I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

ILChief 02-02-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 5452482)
I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

I agree, the rule is outlived its usefulness. 2 of the last 3 super bowl winning coaches have been minorities plus the runner up year before last. The barrier has been broken.

jettio 02-02-2009 08:53 PM

I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

Cormac 02-02-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer (Post 5451045)
No kidding, if that is really the case, then the rule is flawed. What if no minorities wanted to interview.... we go without a coach! :rolleyes:

Hey, we've been doing it for the last few years......

Cormac 02-02-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan (Post 5452255)
Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

ROFL

Mark M 02-02-2009 09:47 PM

I'm reading all of this (the MLK "I Have A Dreamsicle" pic was ****ing hysterical - rep to pr_capone), and ...

How long do you all think it's going to take us to get used to the lockdown at One Arrowhead Drive?

Because it's driving me nuts, and I know it's driving a lot of you nuts. I mean, how we can do mock drafts without knowing who the coach will be next year? I need to know what, exactly, to yell at Mel Kiper (other than STFU).

Even worse, the media keep speculating more than an over-eager mid-1990s hedge fund manager on a three-day coke binge. And having about as much success.

If something doesn't change, Jack Harry won't have any credibility left.

Oh, wait ...

MM
~~ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-02-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 5452732)
I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

I can be as much of a pill as anyone, but it's nice now and again to hear a valid take on something besides drafting and Quarterbacks.

Mucho REP.:clap:

whoman69 02-02-2009 10:29 PM

If they're citing the Chiefs interest in Haley as a reason to turn down the Chiefs, I'd say its pretty far from a slam dunk that they hire him as much as it was for the Lions when they went after Mariucchi. If there is now an exemption for such an event, the the Lion's situation had pretty much everything to do with it. If such an exemption exists it would protect organizations that do practice racist policies. That said, the time for the Rooney rule has passed.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5452507)
I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

This.

MMXcalibur 02-02-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5450988)
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

Agreed.

I'm sick of this shit. I understand why the Rooney rule was implemented, but goddamn...just hire who's best fit for the job.

....alright, forget it, I'm done. I don't want to come off as sounding racist.


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