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SAUTO 02-02-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Orlandochiefsgrl (Post 5452057)
So, what YOU are saying is you like players coaches like Herm. Well don't you and Tony G make a cute couple on the sidelines!!

NO i dont like players coaches, but i do feel as though the players should RESPECT the coach and gruden had no players that respected him in tampa(from what's coming out at least) oh yeah TRUST is also a huge factor and by all accounts chucky cant be trusted, especially with young players

Bill Lundberg 02-02-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5452102)
NO i dont like players coaches, but i do feel as though the players should RESPECT the coach and gruden had no players that respected him in tampa(from what's coming out at least) oh yeah TRUST is also a huge factor and by all accounts chucky cant be trusted, especially with young players

Who aside from Simeon (headcase) Rice and Jeff (crybaby) Garcia have come out and badmouthed Gruden?

MTG#10 02-02-2009 05:13 PM

Its Cowher guys, BarryinStLouis said so.

ChiefsGirl 02-02-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 5452127)
Its Cowher guys, BarryinStLouis said so.

Write it down, then.

Scorp 02-02-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5452010)
in our position we need someone these young players feel they can TRUST and by all indications chucky isnt THAT GUY

Are you fucking kidding me?............we need someone our players fear and that can show them the wrath of God!

kcxiv 02-02-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 5452127)
Its Cowher guys, BarryinStLouis said so.

I think its Cowher, but not becuase of Barry. haha

rambleonthruthefog 02-02-2009 05:31 PM

Gruden is alright. i think he'll return to the NFL and have some success.

DaWolf 02-02-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5452079)
They were all QBs he wanted, apparently, and that doesn't even count Jake Plummer, who he also wanted badly.

This is where Gruden and Shanarat get in trouble, and need a better talent evaluator that Bruce Allen or themself to slap them upside the head and give them an actual QB.

Of course Gruden could be one of those personalities that gets tired of new toys every so often. But my impression is that he works better when he has a QB who he can trust (Gannon) and a boss who can push back rather than be pushed over...

ChiefsCountry 02-02-2009 05:39 PM

Gruden will go the college route IMO and be a legend. He is one of those Napeleon types that need all the power. He can do that in college football.

SAUTO 02-02-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorp (Post 5452138)
Are you fucking kidding me?............we need someone our players fear and that can show them the wrath of God!

while true, if those players don't trust the man then all else fails. do you want to go into battle with someone you dont trust?

Mecca 02-02-2009 06:01 PM

The biggest motivator you can give anyone is fear...if they think they'll be benched or cut you'll see a different player.

SAUTO 02-02-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 5452113)
Who aside from Simeon (headcase) Rice and Jeff (crybaby) Garcia have come out and badmouthed Gruden?

keyshawn johnson, shit another wr cant think of his name right now (mccardell??), chris simms, look around i'm sure you can find more

SAUTO 02-02-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5452205)
The biggest motivator you can give anyone is fear...if they think they'll be benched or cut you'll see a different player.

do you think gruden actually scares anyone?

SAUTO 02-02-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5452205)
The biggest motivator you can give anyone is fear...if they think they'll be benched or cut you'll see a different player.

but they also need to trust that if they do whats asked the coach will do what he said he would do. example if your boss tells you to work 8 saturdays and he'll give you a raise. you do it he doesnt, next time are you going to work saturday?

Scorp 02-02-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5452213)
but they also need to trust that if they do whats asked the coach will do what he said he would do. example if your boss tells you to work 8 saturdays and he'll give you a raise. you do it he doesnt, next time are you going to work saturday?

I bet they trusted Herm Edwards as he led them to being the laughing stock of the NFL.


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