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He was a number 3 pick in the draft, and has been a backup for over half of his career. That is the definition of bust. Ryan Sims is on an NFL roster, so clearly he is not a bust either. |
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In other words, the No. 3 pick has either been boom or bust. I wouldn't be surprised if the other top 5 spots are the same way.
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I believe it's worth gambling (which won't be MUCH of a gamble if pioli is all that he's been anointed as) to get that high upside guy (sanchez or stafford)... you draft either (I'd prefer stafford--he's been nails every time I've seen him, but sanchez may have a higher ceiling) and let him sit for at least a year and learn the ropes. you know, get a competant QB coach and offensive coordinator, build the offense around him, and put him in situations where he can build his confidence. anyway, I digress. the absolute abject fear of QBs around here is baffling. you'd think that everybody would be sick to death of other teams having that guy and shredding us. remember the 90's? just take a look at who beat us in the playoffs. every playoff loss this decade? peyton ****ing manning. srsly. when's it gonna be our turn to have that franchise guy to rip OTHER people's hearts out? |
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I have no problem taking risks... but the odds are stacked HEAVILY against a junior QB succeeding... what makes either of these two any different? With the amazing failure rate of junior QBs... I can't imagine it is just coincidence.... Take a look at a PARTIAL list.... (Big Ben had 38 starts so he is a bit of an exception) This is a list of guys that teams "gambled" on... Junior QBs are the SUCKER bet of the draft... If you still want to take that gamble.. I would advise staying away from Vegas, that town was built off bad math.... Ben Roethlisberger, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Alex Smith, Rex Grossman, Todd Marinovich, Andre Ware, Tommy Maddox, Rick Mirer, Heath Shuler, Vince Young, Byron Leftwich, and Michael Vick ... Iguess you could squeeze Aaron Rodgers inthat list... but he was a JuCo transfer so I don't consider him the same as the "true" juniors... |
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a while back, I did a bit of research of first round qbs relative to where they were drafted, and whether they played right off the bat or sat on the bench and learned the ropes. overwhelmingly, the guys who were eased into the lineup were those with the greatest success. you can look at almost every qb on your list, and they mostly played right off the bat. my take is that, in a perfect world, you draft the senior qb that started 40 games, had a high completion percentage, and played in a pro style offense. this isn't a perfect world. we have stafford and sanchez, who have flashed the ability to be that franchise qb we've lacked, really, since len dawson. and unfortunately, that's what the draft is all about. picking young guys with talent and upside. luckily, we have one of the best guys in the nfl doing the picking for us now. if we draft a qb at number three overall, I have all the confidence in the world that pioli will put him in the position to succeed. |
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THE definition of a bust is Ryan Leaf The definition of a bust is Akili Smith. The definition of a bust is Cade McNown. Do you think that Jim Plunkett was a "bust"? He was number one overall in pick in 1971, yet by 1978, he was a backup QB for the Raiders. Of course all he did after that was win the Super Bowl in 1981 and 1983. I'm not predicting future greatness for Joey Harrington but stranger things have happened. |
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Do people ever look beyond W-L and stats? I'm as big a stat guy as anyone on the board, but I at least try to evaluate a player on what they do on the field. I called Chad Pennington "not suitable" after the 2002 season, because I didn't like his weak arm. He had great numbers that year and a playoff win. However, I wrote him off as a championship caliber QB because he could not throw all the passes. You get a good defense in the playoffs and Chad isn't going to deliver. I stick by that assessment to this day. |
My opinion of QB's right now is that just being from a pro style offense puts them ahead of where most QB's are, the college spread fixation is hurting the QB transitions to the next level..
And Sanchez isn't a true junior by the way. |
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Matt Ryan's rookie non-Pro-Bowl year shows much, much more promise than VY's pro-bowl year. Matt Ryan's way of winning is based on strong fundamental play. VY's winning in 2006, was based on miracle comebacks that are non-sustainable without strong fundamentals. |
It's nice to see Vince Young prove to be what I thought he was...I never thought he could legit play QB in the NFL at an even average level.
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The guy has serious emotional and psychological issues that have nothing to due with football. And, his career is far from over. If history teaches us anything, it's that quarterbacks can comeback and play well at nearly anytime before 40. |
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