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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5471499)

Roethlisberger played like shit in the Superbowl save the last drive of the game.
That performance doesn't do your argument that he's a franchise player justice.

He played like shit?

What?

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5471161)

I was just looking through my old football cards last night, and was blown away at the unimpressiveness of John Elways #s. QBs who win games in clutch situattions make all the difference. #s are completely over rated IMO.

Elway's numbers are unimpressive?

300 TD's | 4,000 Completions | 50,000 passing yards
:shrug:

Ok Mecca I can see why you get frustrated or mad with the stupid people. I can't believe what I am reading from some of you on this thread.

Un****ingbelievable.

Roethlisberger isn't that good. It's pretty clear that team wins off of its defense. He just has to manage the game, but is it very rarely that I actually see Big Ben take over a game and win it solely on his back.

There are only a few QB's in this league that can do that. Big Ben isn't one of them.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5471514)

He played like shit?

What?

Um, yeah... He did.
Aside from the last drive of the game (which I gave him credit for) he completed just 16 passes for 172 yards, 0 TD's and 1 INT.

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5471535)

You're kidding right?

Is it April Fools Day or something?

Ben kept so many drives alive with his legs it was close to being unbelievable. A game manager would have had to punt several times in Bowl

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5471536)

Um, yeah... He did.
Aside from the last drive of the game (which I gave him credit for) he completed just 16 passes for 172 yards, 0 TD's and 1 INT.

I didn't see a QB who played like shit in that game.

I don't know why you're listing the number of completed passes when he attempted just 30 for the entire game.

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5471542)

Ben kept so many drives alive with his legs it was close to being unbelievable. A game manager would have had to punt several times in Bowl

No kidding. I just can't believe people on here are really stupid enough to think that Big Ben is not a franchise QB or even a good QB.

How is that possible considering that he led a game winning drive and made several great throws including the game winner. That is what great QB's do.

WTF??? Am I seeing Big Ben and Tyler Thigpen comparisons? Wow. And how can someone say Ben never put a team on his back and take over a game? Do you even watch football? That's ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5471550)

I didn't see a QB who played like shit in that game.

I suppose each is his own.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

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I don't know why you're listing the number of completed passes when he attempted just 30 for the entire game.

No sense in telling half the tale.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5471558)

No sense in telling half the tale.

How many passes on the final drive? 5-6?

If 5, 16/25 is a 64% completion percentage. Not too shabby.

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5471538)

You're kidding right?

Is it April Fools Day or something?

Ok maybe im being a little harsh. He's a good QB, but I wouldnt put him in the upper echelon of QB's in this league.

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5471595)

Ok maybe im being a little harsh. He's a good QB, but I wouldnt put him in the upper echelon of QB's in this league.

Statistically no but when it comes to making a big play he is one of the best. The guy is clutch and that is what separates great QB's from good or average.

Just think about Joe Montana, he didn't always have the best stats but he was money in the big games

Oh and BTW Big Ben played with broken ribs in the SB.

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ROETHLISBERGER PLAYED WITH BROKEN RIBS

Posted by Mike Florio on February 9, 2009, 10:22 a.m.

Some in the media (including John Clayton of ESPN) openly scoffed at our Super Bowl-week report that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger secretly underwent an X-ray on his ribs/back.

The X-ray was related to an injury that Roethlisberger sustained during the AFC title game.

Roethlisberger initially wouldn’t comment on the situation, and coach Mike Tomlin responded to questions from AFC pool reporter Peter King about the matter with a vague “not that I heard.”

Apparently, Tomlin needs to get better sources within his team. Because, according to King’s latest MMQB column, Roethlisberger indeed had an X-ray on his ribs. (Big Ben admitted to NBC’s Andrea Kremer that he’d had an X-ray “somewhere.”)

King also reports that, as it turns out, two of the ribs were broken, as revealed not by the X-ray but by an MRI performed after the Super Bowl.

“Fractured ribs,” Roethlisberger told King. “Luckily, in the game, I didn’t take any big hits to make ‘em hurt. But I knew all along there was something wrong. There wouldn’t have been anything they could have done about fractured ribs anyway. It was just suck it up and play.”