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missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 5521970)
Yeah I dunno.

For awhile I was operating under the assumption that Sanchez wasn't worth the #3, but I've been looking and now I'm trying to justify who IS worth the #3 and this is a hard question to answer. The fact is, this draft is so shitty that we should start it at pick #10.

What that means is that I wouldn't hate to take Sanchez at #3, but only because everybody else sucks too.

Of all the years to have the #3 pick...

word....next year's #3 will be nice

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by missinDThomas (Post 5521976)
word....next year's #3 will be nice

Not if we want a QB it won't be, hell #1 won't be nice for that.

Chiefnj2 02-24-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5521968)
And this is why top prospects are routinely advised to not throw at the combine, exactly what you're doing.

What is he doing? Observing throws that weren't accurate and didn't have great zip? I'm sure Sanchez is a smart guy, did really well in interviews, showed good leadership abilities and footwork. But, to say he threw well and the ball exploded out of his hand is just not accurate.

warrior 02-24-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5521975)
He's giving the Chiefs NE as a trade partner saying they are going to give up 20 spots and a huge point value for Matt Cassell...which makes me want to kill myself.

Cassell is not worth that IMO.

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:48 AM

Exploded out of his hand.......were you expecting a JaMarcus Russell workout or something?

Matt Ryans workout wasn't awe inspiring either, I never said he possessed a howitzer arm I said it was above average and comparable to slightly better than Matt Ryans arm.

When judging someones arm you have to ask yourself is it good enough to play at the NFL level if the answer is yes than that should be the end of the question. The ball explodes out of Kyle Bollers hand how's that working?

Super duper arm strength is nice to have but it isn't required, who in the NFL that is a great player has a super duper arm?

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:50 AM

This is why


1 1 Taylor Mays FS Southern California 6-3 230 1 this dude is going to dominate in the NFL

2 1 Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 6-3 245 1
3 1 Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma 6-6 262 1
4 1 Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 6-5 300 1
5 1 Colt McCoy QB Texas 6-3 216 1
6 1 Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 6-4 305 1
7 2 Trent Williams OT Oklahoma 6-5 309 1
8 3 Ciron Black OT LSU 6-5 328 1
9 2 Terrence Cody DT Alabama 6-5 368 1
10 1 Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College 6-4 238 1
11 2 Tim Tebow QB Florida 6-3 238 1
12 1 Trevard Lindley CB Kentucky 6-0 178 1
13 1 C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 5-11 193 1
14 1 Brandon LaFell WR LSU 6-3 210 1
15 2 Sergio Kindle OLB Texas 6-4 238 1
16 3 Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri 6-1 235 1


1 1 Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma 6-4 218
2 1 Eric Berry SS Tennessee 5-11 195
3 1 Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma 6-4 295
4 1 Carlos Dunlap DE Florida 6-6 286
5 1 Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech 5-11 228
6 2 Jevan Snead QB Mississippi 6-3 215
7 1 Arrelious Benn WR Illinois 6-2 214
8 2 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina 6-3 305
9 1 Navorro Bowman OLB Penn State 6-1 228
10 1 Joe Haden CB Florida 5-11 185
11 1 Rolando McClain ILB Alabama 6-4 248
12 1 Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa 6-6 304
13 2 Everson Griffen DE Southern California 6-3 265
14 2 Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State 6-2 210
15 2 Jahvid Best RB California 5-10 195
16 1 Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona 6-6 258
17 1 Rodney Hudson OG Florida State 6-2 295

penguinz 02-24-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5521925)
You are full of it right now. Pat White did a phenomenal job with his footwork and mechanics. Even the hosts on the NFL channel said so.

Oh, and I thought we were drafting Sanchez because he has all the physical tools, not because he has a below average arm with great mechanics.

We can get those guys later in the draft.

You are clueless. Sanchez does not have a below average arm.

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:51 AM

1st group were JRs and 2nd group Sophs

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:51 AM

Eric Berry is a better prospect, and that's from me a SC fan.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-24-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5521958)
Ok why is it ok to make Aaron Curry the highest paid player at his position before he plays a down then?

You don't get a shot at a top QB very often and some people just want to piss it away to rebuild a team that never won.

No, you don't get a chance to draft a top QB often. Just like this year, unless Stafford falls.

Aaron Curry is the real deal. He has been a multi year starter. He has the complete package. He is an ideal ILB in the 3-4. He is a non stop motor guy, a true leader on the defensive side of the ball. He is big and fast.

Sanchez has only one year of starting experience. Sanchez won the starting job in 07 before suffering an injury. However, later in the season Booty was injured and Sanchez was given the opportunity to start. He was yanked after three games.

John David Booty isn't Matt Leinart or Carson Palmer, if you know what I mean.

Forgive my skepticism regarding him. I just don't think he is a great prospect.

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:52 AM

With Mays size and abilities a "good" DCoor will be able to do amazing stuff with him

ChiefRon 02-24-2009 08:53 AM

Here we go again. Same argument. Same reasoning, from both sides. Did we really need a new thread for this? How many of these threads do we need? Three or so every day until draft day?

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5521989)
No, you don't get a chance to draft a top QB often. Just like this year, unless Stafford falls.

Aaron Curry is the real deal. He has been a multi year starter. He has the complete package. He is an ideal ILB in the 3-4. He is a non stop motor guy, a true leader on the defensive side of the ball. He is big and fast.

Sanchez has only one year of starting experience. Sanchez won the starting job in 07 before suffering an injury. However, later in the season Booty was injured and Sanchez was given the opportunity to start. He was yanked after three games.

John David Booty isn't Matt Leinart or Carson Palmer, if you know what I mean.

Forgive my skepticism regarding him. I just don't think he is a great prospect.

I think you should go into the rape thing again...you know just for the sake of doing it for the day.

And for all we know Aaron Curry could be Derrick Johnson, no one is safe no one is a sure thing.

penguinz 02-24-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5521980)
What is he doing? Observing throws that weren't accurate and didn't have great zip? I'm sure Sanchez is a smart guy, did really well in interviews, showed good leadership abilities and footwork. But, to say he threw well and the ball exploded out of his hand is just not accurate.

You do realize that competing the passes in the throwing drill is not what they are looking for. They are looking for the ability to make the throw to that part of the field. The could not care less whether or not it is caught by the WR.

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by missinDThomas (Post 5521990)
With Mays size and abilities a "good" DCoor will be able to do amazing stuff with him

He lacks ball skills....he could develop them and SC is supposedly going to use him in alot more roles than just a cover 1 safety next year but as of right now physically he's the best prospect as an actual player he's not..

Eric Berry has superb ballskills and resembles Ed Reed.


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