Give it up, dude. Pete's a blockhead. He will never be rational.

Have what both ways? What am I trying to have both ways? You are the one making excuses as to why you lost at MU. You were spotted 14 points and lost. That is the fact. You can't change it, no matter how much you may want too.

And you're half a bundle of sticks.

If MU and KU play against each other in the Big XII tourney, on neutral ground, and both teams play their best games, I think it would be close. I'm pretty sure you all will question my MU fandom when I say that KU would probably come out on top.

Just once it would be really interesting to see an opinion of yours that didn't seem completely manufactured before hand based on how other people will think or react to it.

Have an opinion and just own it regardless of others. I have never seen someone work so hard to tip toe based on input from other people.

WTF are you talking about? It's a mental lapse on KU's part and it's no excuse, it's happened before versus many other teams this year. It just means that KU sucks in terms of mental toughness and you see what happened on Sunday when they didn't fall prey to it. KU had the game in Missouri and they blew it, that's a fact.

I believe I did state my opinion. I think KU is the better team right now. However, I don't think MU is as bad as KU fans make them out to be. I think it would be closer than they think it would.

If MU wants to play at KU's level they need to figure out how to play consistent offense. It is as simple as that. They can't score in the first halves of games, and it has killed them in most of their losses.

Those will even out tremendously after this week. KU plays #135 and #38 this week while MU will play #5 and #35. Also you played OU while they were #3 I believe but that team was not really a #3.

Sure it was......mental lapse.....whatever you need to tell yourself. Couldn't of been anything MU did....had to be KU's own doing....

Agree 100%. I don't think anyone is sayin KU is not the better team at the moment. But they are not as good as they are acting like they are and MU is not as bad as they are acting like they are.

the average margin of victory this year was KU by 13.5.

I made no excuses for the loss at MU. I don't, however, IMHO, think that it means the teams are completely even, just because it says 1-1 in head-to-head.

MU's home court advantage led to a 2-point win for MU, at the buzzer.
KU's home court advantage led to a 25-point win for KU, that was never, for one second, in doubt.

Now, what can we guess will happen on a neutral court?

Why would I need to tell myself anything? KU is a better team. Has been and will be. I'm just trying to point some things out to you. You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about, but those mental lapses have been plaguing this KU team all year.

You can believe whatever you want, but know that you will sound stupid to those who are informed. We'll let history be the judge, yeah?

I don't dicount the effect MU's defense had on KU's turnovers. Mu has a great D, one of the best in the country.

On that same note, I realize the effect KU's defense had on MU's shooting percentage.

But, KU has had long stretches of horrible offense this year, has proven they can get a case of the turnovers, and has let teams that were out of the game at halftime back in at the end. And all of these flaws were proven long before they played MU.

Just like if MU had shot a horrible FG percentage all year before playing KU. I wouldn't walk in and say "look at what KU did to you fools, hahaha!"

I'm saying its both. KU turns the ball over on offense, MU forces turnovers, hence the high number of turnovers.

Reread my post. I didn't say you didn't state an opinion.