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Basileus777 03-04-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5554403)
For the Eagles or for the Chiefs?

For Philly. I can't see them giving up a first round pick for that.

Johnny Vegas 03-04-2009 01:49 PM

let LJ stay.

bdeg 03-04-2009 01:49 PM

You have to keep in mind Philly is in a very win-now mode IMO.

StcChief 03-04-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 5554316)
Tony can and will play for as long as he wants to play. 1 year of solid production is one of the stupidest comments i've ever heard. He just wrapped up one the best seasons of his career and now all of a sudden he has 1 season of production in him? Jesus people, WTF happened to common sense?

Stop comparing TG to every other player out there. Time after time again, he's proven he's not like the rest. He has shown no signs of slowing down.

As far as the 3 player trade goes; some one has been playing too much Madden. And whomever said that they won't trade TG because Cassel needs weapons is right.

Cassel is our franchise boy now. They're going to give him every possible tool they can for him to succeed. You really think an offensive minded coach is going to trade away his best weapon? I mean really?

EXACTLY. LJ/Water's I believe will be gone.

Tony's is staying here. he IS the primary receiving weapon, goto guy.... Cassell has to depend on him, (until Cottam or other new TE can attempt to fill the shoes)... Bowe, Franklin, Darling, etc will get the ball when we can move it down field. Knowing Tony is the threat.

BigChiefFan 03-04-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5554407)
For Philly. I can't see them giving up a first round pick for that.

3 Pro Bowlers for a 1st round pick, screws us over, not them. We could probably get a 2nd round pick for Tony by himself.

CupidStunt 03-04-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5554414)
You have to keep in mind Philly is in a very win-now mode IMO.

They're still a cheap-ass organisation that does things their own way. I very much doubt they pull the trigger on a deal anything like this.

bdeg 03-04-2009 01:58 PM

Think about if from their perspective. Your best players are getting old, would you rather take a player who might contribute next year and be good in a few, or 3 players at the top of their game? Tony alone is probably between 1/2 and 2/3 of the value of the trade. He would make that offense one of the top, especially if they could grab a tackle with their other 1st. Add in Waters and LJ and that team could be up there with the Pats as the top offense.

Basileus777 03-04-2009 02:02 PM

Tell Brian Dawkins about how the Eagles are in a win now mode.

speak24 03-04-2009 02:02 PM

If this true... :LOL:

the Talking Can 03-04-2009 02:02 PM

the eagles haven't been successful for a decade by trading for old vets...in fact, they do just opposite and ship them out....

CoMoChief 03-04-2009 02:08 PM

If anyone is traded, it sure as hell won't be TonyG or Waters.

Trading LJ does seem like a possibility, don't really know where he'd go....maybe Philly but I also don't think we'd get anything higher than a 3rd for him.

As far as Crennel, I dont know. I thought I heard he's taking a season off to rehab from the surgery he had recently. Does that mean he can't coach because of it? I dont really know.

Ray Lewis, pretty sure there would be more on this if it were true. The Chiefs may not open their mouth, but I'm sure that other league sources etc would jump all over this and 810 etc would be slobbering all over this. I havent heard anything.....but that doesn't mean negotiations aren't in process.

You'd be a ****in moron not to take the 3rd rd pick for Thigpen. Thats basically giving KC a free draft pick. We didn't spend shit on Thigpen, we got him off waivers IIRC.

bdeg 03-04-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5554462)
Tell Brian Dawkins about how the Eagles are in a win now mode.

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5554465)
the eagles haven't been successful for a decade by trading for old vets...in fact, they do just opposite and ship them out....

good points

BigRedChief 03-04-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5554214)
Sounds like a load to me.

He only has 3 posts over there. No rep behind his words.

BigRedChief 03-04-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5554485)
You'd be a ****in moron not to take the 3rd rd pick for Thigpen. Thats basically giving KC a free draft pick. We didn't spend shit on Thigpen, we got him off waivers IIRC.

uhhh its not what you paid its what they are worth now. eg....Cassel a 2nd and Brady was a 7th. What would he fetch on the trade block?

kcfanXIII 03-04-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkky (Post 5554392)
I could see Tony getting moved for the right deal. I don't think Pioli or Haley either one come from a system very dependent on TE production.
Granted neither had a HOF TE at their disposal while having very good WR talent.

everyone questioned how TG would fit into the vermeil/saunders system too. i think he's the type of guy that will fit into any system if they just bump TE up the progression chart. if the right deal is offered, i think he'll be moved, but i don't think they are looking to dump him for anything they can get.


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