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SAUTO 03-10-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5569923)
Randy Moss.

Wes Welker.

Josh McDaniels.

Solid OL play.6th best rushing offense in NFL.


Tell me, how were Cassel and Thigpen similar?

Don't bother responding if all you have is "took snaps from the shotgun."

i watched several games last year and that "solid o line" must not have shown up for them

SenselessChiefsFan 03-10-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5569934)
Those players made that scheme possible and successful.

Just like Roaf and Holmes made DV's schemese possible and successful.

OnTheWarpath15 03-10-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5569939)
Just like Roaf and Holmes made DV's schemese possible and successful.

Agreed.

My point, is that if we're going to fit our scheme to the players we have, we have no business running the spread - unless the offensive roster is completely turned over in the next 5 months.

SenselessChiefsFan 03-10-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5569944)
Agreed.

My point, is that if we're going to fit our scheme to the players we have, we have no business running the spread - unless the offensive roster is completely turned over in the next 5 months.

My point is that this offense is better prepared to be the spread than it is a pro style offense.

I don't think Thigpen was the only reason the Chiefs ran the spread last year.

And, with the spread that both the Cards and Pats ran, I don't see it going away.

RustShack 03-10-2009 10:10 AM

Cassel was the #8 QB in the nation coming out of HS where he lined up under center. He went to USC who runs a pro style offense. He was the backup to Heisman trophy winner Carson Palmer who was drafted #1 overall and was also his roomate and best man in his wedding. Cassel almost beat out Matt Leinart in college. He still got some playing time and you would be foolish to think he didn't get any snaps in practice either. He has far more experience running a Pro Style offense than Thigpen does. Cassel also had better NFL coaching than Thigpen has received so far too.

RustShack 03-10-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5569947)
My point is that this offense is better prepared to be the spread than it is a pro style offense.

I don't think Thigpen was the only reason the Chiefs ran the spread last year.


So why do you think they ran it even though we didn't switch to it until Thigpen took over?

kcbubb 03-10-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5569944)
Agreed.

My point, is that if we're going to fit our scheme to the players we have, we have no business running the spread - unless the offensive roster is completely turned over in the next 5 months.

You could argue the exact opposite view because of the offensive line. With an aging Sakintosh and a discontent Waters and without a 2nd round pick; the offensive line is likely to be just as bad or worse than last year. The spread obviously works better with a poor line.

The Chiefs haven't shown an interest thus far in signing any free agent lineman to improve the line.

RustShack 03-10-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5569956)
You could argue the exact opposite view because of the offensive line. With an aging Sakintosh and a discontent Waters and without a 2nd round pick; the offensive line is likely to be just as bad or worse than last year. The spread obviously works better with a poor line.

The Chiefs haven't shown an interest thus far in signing any free agent lineman to improve the line.

ah I didn't realize if you don't sign free agents the first week that you can't improve.

Micjones 03-10-2009 10:16 AM

As long as we balance the offense out, run plays from under Center, and establish the ground game I think we should continue to include it in our overall offensive philosophy.

kcbubb 03-10-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5569953)
So why do you think they ran it even though we didn't switch to it until Thigpen took over?

because they finally realized that if they wanted to keep a QB healthy that had better switch to something else, because the QBs were getting killed behind that line.

keg in kc 03-10-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5569956)
The spread obviously works better with a poor line.

:spock:

Okay then.

RustShack 03-10-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5569969)
because they finally realized that if they wanted to keep a QB healthy that had better switch to something else, because the QBs were getting killed behind that line.

Oh so it had nothing to do with Thigpens mobility and that he sucks from under center.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-10-2009 10:20 AM

Change the title of this thread, it looks like it's credible tool.

kcbubb 03-10-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5569962)
ah I didn't realize if you don't sign free agents the first week that you can't improve.


what OL free agents do you think that we are targeting??? I'm not saying that it can't happen. I just haven't seen any reason to believe that the Chiefs are going to sign any free agent lineman that we can believe are really going to make a difference.

If they don't sign some OL in free agency, how can we think that the offensive line play will improve???

beach tribe 03-10-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5569897)
Thanks, I needed that.

toast. No problem.


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