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WoodDraw 03-14-2009 02:08 PM
I don't see how Oklahoma could get a #2 seed. If MU wins today, I think they have a chance of grabbing the KC spot. If not, KU would have a strong chance. I could see both teams being #3 seeds though.

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-14-2009 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 5582165)
Ah, an MU fan... probably a grad. It's "that well," but I digress.

Who's undefeated? Tell me! Does every good team need to go 35-0 or they're a failure? We're playing with one junior starter and the rest sophs/freshmen. Watching KU at the start of the season I was hoping we wouldn't be an embarrassment and maybe make the NIT. Yet, here we are.
But... but... we're all a bunch of assholes for saying anything that could be considered pro KU.

WoodDraw 03-14-2009 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5582167)
UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
Eh, it depends. Florida St. isn't an awful team, so I doubt it matters too much. Being a number one seed doesn't mean never losing, especially in a tournament. Let's see what Duke does though...

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-14-2009 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5582164)
Probably not much, unless one overlooks the reg. season championship.

Oh, and there was a win vs. Texas mixed in there, to be fair.
And at OU when they were top 5... and blowing out MU when they were #8. Yea... anything we get over an 8 seed is a gift. It must be fixed.

beer bacon 03-14-2009 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5582167)
UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
So your saying that those teams losing won't factor into their seeding? A team like Michigan State had a chance at a #1 seed, they won't get it now. UCONN isn't a lock for a #1 seed anymore. NC is still a lock, but that is due to them being NC and already being considered well ahead of the pack. Ty Lawson also did not play today.

Also, how is it reconciled that a highly seeded team that loses its best player near the end of the season will be downgraded, yet a team with a great early season/non-con that is obviously not playing great at the end of season will be given a pass because of their body of work. Why make a predictive seeding due to a lost player but not due to a poor finish?

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-14-2009 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 5582174)
Eh, it depends. Florida St. isn't an awful team, so I doubt it matters too much. Being a number one seed doesn't mean never losing, especially in a tournament. Let's see what Duke does though...
My post was sarcasm directed toward beer bacon

eazyb81 03-14-2009 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5582171)
But... but... we're all a bunch of assholes for saying anything that could be considered pro KU.
Yeah, the fish aren't biting on your bait today. Might try again tomorrow.

doomy3 03-14-2009 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 5582170)
I don't see how Oklahoma could get a #2 seed. If MU wins today, I think they have a chance of grabbing the KC spot. If not, KU would have a strong chance. I could see both teams being #3 seeds though.
I pretty much agree with this. So, I hope MU loses. Who knows though what will happen.

But, I do think OU will probably be a 2 seed.

beer bacon 03-14-2009 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5582179)
I pretty much agree with this. So, I hope MU loses. Who knows though what will happen.

But, I do think OU will probably be a 2 seed.
My opinion is OU will be a #2 due to their non-conference. KU and MU will be #3s. This is fantastic considering OU lost to both teams and then choked against Ok. State.

WoodDraw 03-14-2009 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5582177)
My post was sarcasm directed toward beer bacon
Gotcha. :D

eazyb81 03-14-2009 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5582179)
I pretty much agree with this. So, I hope MU loses. Who knows though what will happen.

But, I do think OU will probably be a 2 seed.
The 2 seed is between OU and ku right now. I don't see them giving it to OU because they finished 2nd in the league, lost to ku at home, and have gone 4-6 their last 10 games.

I just don't think the committee could justify that.

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-14-2009 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 5582176)
So your saying that those teams losing won't factor into their seeding? A team like Michigan State had a chance at a #1 seed, they won't get it now. UCONN isn't a lock for a #1 seed anymore. NC is still a lock, but that is due to them being NC and already being considered well ahead of the pack. Ty Lawson also did not play today.

Also, how is it reconciled that a highly seeded team that loses its best player near the end of the season will be downgraded, yet a team with a great early season/non-con that is obviously not playing great at the end of season will be given a pass because of their body of work. Why make a predictive seeding due to a lost player but not due to a poor finish?
Great early season? KU? Started pretty slow... then won the conference.

I've gone on record twice already too saying KU deserves anywhere from a 3 to a 5 seed.

beer bacon 03-14-2009 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5582184)
The 2 seed is between OU and ku right now. I don't see them giving it to OU because they finished 2nd in the league, lost to ku at home, and have gone 4-6 their last 10 games.

I just don't think the committee could justify that.
The current head of the selection committee has a boner for rewarding a team's "body of work." This means the most important thing to him is the non-conference. OU had an excellent non-con and they will be rewarded for it.

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-14-2009 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5582178)
Yeah, the fish aren't biting on your bait today. Might try again tomorrow.
Oh there's plenty of KU hate going on... it's fun to see.

beer bacon 03-14-2009 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5582188)
Oh there's plenty of KU hate going on... it's fun to see.
Most of my rancor is directed at dumbass KU fans. It is hard for me to be angry today :)


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