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'Hamas' Jenkins 03-23-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5603706)
A little bit.

But it's still a concern I have with Stafford. Does he have the patience, humility, and intestinal fortitude to learn when heaving the ball 100mph is NOT appropriate? Or will he always bank on his million dollar arm to get him out of trouble?

I'd bank on a guy who is intelligent outside of football, blew teams away with his board work, great intangibles, and has phenomenal physical attributes, but that's just me.

Kyle DeLexus 03-23-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5603721)
Of course it's impossible to know for sure, but he's another one that sounds great in an interview. Sure seems like he'd be a very coachable player.

Confident, yet humble. Nice combo.

This. The kid is going to be amazing.

Kyle DeLexus 03-23-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5603723)
I'd bank on a guy who is intelligent outside of football, blew teams away with his board work, great intangibles, and has phenomenal physical attributes, but that's just me.

This. The kid is going to be amazing.

htismaqe 03-23-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72 (Post 5603716)
Like I said earlier, he's a very smart kid and that will translate onto the field. He just needs to mature a little more.

It's not about "smart". Jay Cutler scored a 26.

Alot of these guys can't and won't admit that they're fallible. Especially the guys that are gifted to the point that they don't have to work very hard if they don't want to. Stafford did alot of things at Georgia to make me question whether or not he's going to be one of those guys.

He's in a very similar position to what Cutler was and we're seeing that play out now. He does need to mature a bit more, the big question is "can he?"

htismaqe 03-23-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5603723)
I'd bank on a guy who is intelligent outside of football, blew teams away with his board work, great intangibles, and has phenomenal physical attributes, but that's just me.

I see where you're coming from. I'm not suggesting the guy isn't worth the #3 pick, nor am I suggesting that he's going to be a bust.

I'm just saying why I'm not as high on him as some.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-23-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5603733)
I see where you're coming from. I'm not suggesting the guy isn't worth the #3 pick, nor am I suggesting that he's going to be a bust.

I'm just saying why I'm not as high on him as some.

I wasn't trying to infer that you were saying he was going to be a bust.

At the same time, you won't find someone higher on Stafford than me. I think he's the best prospect since Palmer.

htismaqe 03-23-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5603739)
I wasn't trying to infer that you were saying he was going to be a bust.

At the same time, you won't find someone higher on Stafford than me. I think he's the best prospect since Palmer.

He's one guy I'm conflicted on.

I'd love to have him.

But him dropping to #3 presents the best chance for us to trade down, and unless we're going to move Cassel, that's what I'd like most for us to do.

Kyle DeLexus 03-23-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5603730)
It's not about "smart". Jay Cutler scored a 26.

Alot of these guys can't and won't admit that they're fallible. Especially the guys that are gifted to the point that they don't have to work very hard if they don't want to. Stafford did alot of things at Georgia to make me question whether or not he's going to be one of those guys.

He's in a very similar position to what Cutler was and we're seeing that play out now. He does need to mature a bit more, the big question is "can he?"

Absolutely. When I was saying he's smart, I was meaning football smart. He blew people away with his board work. The kid knows football and seems to be very coachable. If you have the right coach in place, he should be able to mature rapidly.

To me, if you pick Stafford, the worst you'll get is a Farve type that throws lots of INT's but can carry his team to win the game regardless. I also believe he will grow out of the INT problems early and will be a top 5 QB in the league for years.

SBK 03-23-2009 11:25 AM

*trying to contain mancrush on Stafford....

Mr. Krab 03-23-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5603815)
*trying to contain mancrush on Stafford....

try harder

Kyle DeLexus 03-23-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5603815)
*trying to contain mancrush on Stafford....

Not me, mines out there on full display.

htismaqe 03-23-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72 (Post 5603805)
Absolutely. When I was saying he's smart, I was meaning football smart. He blew people away with his board work. The kid knows football and seems to be very coachable. If you have the right coach in place, he should be able to mature rapidly.

To me, if you pick Stafford, the worst you'll get is a Farve type that throws lots of INT's but can carry his team to win the game regardless. I also believe he will grow out of the INT problems early and will be a top 5 QB in the league for years.

Fair enough.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-23-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5603815)
*trying to contain mancrush on Stafford....

Contain nothing of the sort, and let it FLOW.

BigCatDaddy 03-23-2009 12:07 PM

If this is the case we are in a great position. We have the choice of the top QB if we want and have a team drafting right behind us with a 34 year old QB on the decline. So any team that wants Stafford needs to leap the Seahawks.

bdeg 03-23-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72 (Post 5603686)
Whats with everyone using hyperbolic today? Is there a CP word of the day thread I missed?

That's funny because instead of "Ya, its definitely a hyperbole" I had originally written hyperbolic.

So add another one to the list. Funny, don't know that I've ever seen that word on here before.


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