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Tiger's Fan 03-25-2009 05:42 PM

No way. He always ran his mouth about the roids, while posting better numbers once he got past the age of 30. Besides not being remotely close numbers wise, I bet he was a roided up hypocrite.

kcxiv 03-25-2009 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Buster Hymen;5610425]No way. He always ran his mouth about the roids, while posting better numbers once he got past the age of 30. Besides not being remotely close numbers wise, I bet he was a roided up hypocrite.[/Qoute] I seriously doubt he roided up. He lost his fast ball a few years back. He had to adjust his pitching style and he still had good years.

Say what you want about Curt, Yes he's is outspoken and sometimes should just shut up, but he's a straight shooter. Plus he's a video gamer as well. He's ok in my book. lol

keg in kc 03-25-2009 06:04 PM

He's a big gamer, so that gets him in in my book.

And when I say gamer, I don't mean baseball. He's big into MMOs.

RJ 03-25-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5610253)
Really?

Wins--216 Tied for 80th all-time
ERA-3.46 Would be 11th among current active players if not retired
Win%-.596. Tied for 119th all-time with Herb Pennock, Ed Lopat and Warren Spahn
WHIP-1.1374 45th all-time
BB/9- 1.962 79th all-time
Strikeouts- 3116 15Th all-time
Adjusted ERA+- 127 Tied 43rd all-time

Schilling's post-season numbers are where he leaves his mark on the game.

11-2, 2.23 ERA, K/BB 120/25, WHIP 0.97




Schilling has the best K/BB ratio of all time among guys with a minimum of 1,000 IP / 100 decisions.

Only Blyleven has retired with more strikeouts and has not made into the HoF.




Like I said, he doesn't have the stats.

But he'll get in, the media loves him.

RJ 03-25-2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5610311)
Strikeouts- 3116 15Th all-time

No doubt he gets in.



Is Jim Thome a HOF'er?

MIAdragon 03-25-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5610714)
Is Jim Thome a HOF'er?

I don’t think so, nor do I think they are even close in their respective categories either.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-25-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5610748)
I don’t think so, nor do I think they are even close in their respective categories either.

Thome is 14th in career homers, Schilling is 15th in strikeouts and 80th in wins.

SAUTO 03-25-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5610761)
Thome is 14th in career homers, Schilling is 15th in strikeouts and 80th in wins.

schill will get hurt by the win total. IMO and yes blyleven should get in 1st

MIAdragon 03-25-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5610761)
Thome is 14th in career homers, Schilling is 15th in strikeouts and 80th in wins.

Thome is 230th in all-time career hits.

Third on the all-time strikeout list.

A career .229 post season batting average.

I dont see the comparison.

MIAdragon 03-25-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5610771)
schill will get hurt by the win total. IMO and yes Blyleven should get in 1st

Blyleven will get in, if he wasn’t such a dickbag he would already be in.

Simply Red 03-25-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5610311)
Strikeouts- 3116 15Th all-time

No doubt he gets in.


yeah, no question, he was always tough to hit, he's a winner, imb.

MahiMike 03-25-2009 08:08 PM

Of course. Not even a debate.

SAUTO 03-25-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5610790)
Blyleven will get in, if he wasn’t such a dickbag he would already be in.

i agree, but that shouldnt matter IMO

RJ 03-25-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5610748)
I don’t think so, nor do I think they are even close in their respective categories either.



Comparing the two I'd give the edge to Schilling, but not by too much.

Thome is to HR's as Schilling is to K's, and Thome will move up the list this season. Thome also has always been an OBP monster. His postseason avg sucks but his HR's and RBI are strong.

Neither, IMO, are HOF worthy, but they've both been very good players.

And both will probably go in.

Braincase 03-25-2009 08:42 PM

If you were to take away all of Roger Clemens' Cy Youngs and give 'em to a pitcher that wasn't tainted by reports of steroid use, how many of them would go to Schill? That, and he's started a company to create his own online role-playing game.

I'd vote him and his sock in.


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