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Chiefnj2 04-14-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5668919)
The NFL is almost certain to have an NBA style rookie cap.

So for example, let's say the number overall pick receives $10 million dollars in guarantees. The second overall pick would receive a fraction of that (say $9.9 million) and so on throughout the draft.

What will happen is that teams will have an exorbitant amount of money for veterans on their second contract (as it should be).

In that case, Albert would clean up.

The owners have pretty much vowed to lock out the players until an agreement like this has been reached.

That's already how 99% of the NFL contracts work. #1 pick gets the most guaranteed and so forth. Occasionally a QB in the top 5 will throw it off a little. Even if the players agree to it, they aren't going to go back on guaranteed money. The starting point would be whatever this years #1 pick gets. They aren't going to all of a sudden agree to the #1 pick getting 20 mil guaranteed, unless the length of the contract is shortened to two years.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5668929)
That's already how 99% of the NFL contracts work. #1 pick gets the most guaranteed and so forth. Occasionally a QB in the top 5 will throw it off a little. Even if the players agree to it, they aren't going to go back on guaranteed money. The starting point would be whatever this years #1 pick gets. They aren't going to all of a sudden agree to the #1 pick getting 20 mil guaranteed, unless the length of the contract is shortened to two years.

Trust me, there will be a Rookie Salary Cap.

The owners are tired of paying huge guarantees to unproven rookies at the top of the draft.

There WILL be a cap on the guaranteed money.

PhillyChiefFan 04-14-2009 02:22 PM

smoke and mirrors.

They are trying to bait a team into moving up.

DeezNutz 04-14-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5668919)
The owners have pretty much vowed to lock out the players until an agreement like this has been reached.

This won't be difficult to resolve.

When pressed, the first thing the vets will give up is the n00bs.

When Matt Ryan is getting P. Manning money without throwing a pass, that's ****ed up, and not appreciated by other players.

Chiefnj2 04-14-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5668977)
This won't be difficult to resolve.

When pressed, the first thing the vets will give up is the n00bs.

When Matt Ryan is getting P. Manning money without throwing a pass, that's ****ed up, and not appreciated by other players.

I don't think the good vets mind that much because it pushes their value up as well.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5669013)
I don't think the good vets mind that much because it pushes their value up as well.

No it doesn't.

ROFL

So, Matt Ryan getting a huge contract bodes well for free agents like Byron Leftwich?

Uh, how does that work?

DeezNutz 04-14-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5669179)
No it doesn't.

ROFL

So, Matt Ryan getting a huge contract bodes well for free agents like Byron Leftwich?

Uh, how does that work?

n00bs under the bus when push comes to shove.

kcbubb 04-15-2009 08:34 AM

mayock and billick

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80fc21e8

Chiefnj2 04-15-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5669179)
No it doesn't.

ROFL

So, Matt Ryan getting a huge contract bodes well for free agents like Byron Leftwich?

Uh, how does that work?

I don't expect you to understand, but I'll explain anyway.

Veterans use contracts of other players at their position when negotiating their own contracts. When unproven guys get 30 mil guaranteed, it allows proven QB's to use those numbers to ask for more money.

Russel and Alex Smith had two of the top 5 total salaries last year for QB's. That affects how veteran QB's get paid - guys like Cassel who will get close to 15 mil this year.


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