ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Movies and TV Matthew Stafford on Fallon (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=206040)

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 5677775)
My point is after the payday at #1 overall for for the
freaking Detroit Lions and a few bone shattering sacks as a rookie, Stafford has a very high probability of being a bust. I'm thinking Todd Blackledge.. I know Blackledge wasn't #1 overall but I'm just sayin.

And that right there is the ****ing problem. See my first post in this thread.

tonyetony 04-17-2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5677780)
That's not a point. That's you just saying shit that you think is going to happen based on nothing that's actually grounded in truth or reality.

I'm just saying, but we are most likely going to find out if I am wrong. Please remind me if I'm wrong.

Jenson71 04-17-2009 01:04 AM

I want to know why people think Tim Tebow won't be a good NFL quarterback. I've even heard things like he'd have more of a chance at runningback. So what's the deal? What's he missing?

I also want to know what position you think he'll play in the NFL at all and if it'd be worth spending a late pick on him to see what he's got at QB.

RealSNR 04-17-2009 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5677718)
Oh how I yearn for the days of fall, whenever the majority of the planet was totally averse to the thought of drafting a QB. Then as winter rolled around, Sanchez became the target du jour. If Cassel craps the bed, it will be interesting to see which quarterback next year isn't good enough.

All of them?

Which QB of next year's class can even sniff the high quality of Stafford or Sanchez?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-17-2009 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5677808)
All of them?

Which QB of next year's class can even sniff the high quality of Stafford or Sanchez?

Sadly, none, but you never know. Matt Ryan was an afterthought before his Sr. year. If someone does emerge, they will be bashed relentlessly, I guarantee you that.

RealSNR 04-17-2009 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 5677795)
I want to know why people think Tim Tebow won't be a good NFL quarterback. I've even heard things like he'd have more of a chance at runningback. So what's the deal? What's he missing?

I also want to know what position you think he'll play in the NFL at all and if it'd be worth spending a late pick on him to see what he's got at QB.

DaKCMan seems hopeful that Tebow spending time with a quality QB coach who will work on his throwing mechanics will turn him into a great NFL QB. Maybe it will work.

But for now, "heart" and "guts" and all that bullshit alone won't get Tebow much of anything in the NFL apart from sore bones and a buttload of interceptions

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-17-2009 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 5677795)
I want to know why people think Tim Tebow won't be a good NFL quarterback. I've even heard things like he'd have more of a chance at runningback. So what's the deal? What's he missing?

I also want to know what position you think he'll play in the NFL at all and if it'd be worth spending a late pick on him to see what he's got at QB.

He has one of the worst throwing motions of any QB, ever, and comes from an offense that greatly increases his learning curve. He has iffy arm strength and accuracy to boot. Nothing about him says NFL QB.

Kyle DeLexus 04-17-2009 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5677817)
Sadly, none, but you never know. Matt Ryan was an afterthought before his Sr. year. If someone does emerge, they will be bashed relentlessly, I guarantee you that.

That's true. It's a rare case you have a QB at the top that people won't bash. If Peyton himself were to be in the last couple of drafts he would get a report like:

"He's got all the measurables you want in a QB, but sometimes he's too animated at the line. He has been known to be calling off audibles right down to the very last seconds of the play clock, this worries a few NFL coaches I have talked to. To me it's not worth the risk of potentially getting a delay of game call, I feel the best value is the coverage LB who makes all the plays he should. If not the LB, go RT or G.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2009 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 5677821)
That's true. It's a rare case you have a QB at the top that people won't bash. If Peyton himself were to be in the last couple of drafts he would get a report like:

"He's got all the measurables you want in a QB, but sometimes he's too animated at the line. He has been known to be calling off audibles right down to the very last seconds of the play clock, this worries a few NFL coaches I have talked to. To me it's not worth the risk of potentially getting a delay of game call, I feel the best value is the coverage LB who makes all the plays he should. If not the LB, go RT or G.

ROFL Nice.

ChiefsCountry 04-17-2009 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5677808)
All of them?

Which QB of next year's class can even sniff the high quality of Stafford or Sanchez?

If Stoopers puts Sammie under center he would have a better chance but the the darkhorse would have to be Jimmy Clausen of Notre Dame.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-17-2009 03:02 AM

Jevan Snead will be next year's Josh Freeman. Tony Pike is a darkhorse with some upside.

pr_capone 04-17-2009 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5677838)
Jevan Snead will be next year's Josh Freeman. Tony Pike is a darkhorse with some upside.

Josh Freeman can go blow a diseased goat.

the Talking Can 04-17-2009 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 5677727)
First off he seems to be self promotional in media terms. Secondly, he had some talent surrounding him and exactly what did he really do with that TEAM as far as collegiate accomplishments? And lastly I was disappointed he couldn't show off his #1 overall talents at the combine, he and his agent had to set the stage.

shouldn't you actually know something about the Georgia team if you're going to make claims based upon them?


because it is obvious you don't know anything about them....you're just making stuff up....

Spicy McHaggis 04-17-2009 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 5677727)
First off he seems to be self promotional in media terms.

Like it or not these top 5 guys, especially at a high visibility position like quarterback, essentially have become their own "brand" or company going into the NFL. It's about the deals that this exposure/recognition will bring down the line.

doomy3 04-17-2009 09:09 AM

I like Stafford and hope we draft him, but:

Why is it that winning a Super Bowl is the end all be all to if a QB in the NFL is worth a shit, but when it is a college QB, it isn't all that important if they win because "they weren't surrounded by all world talent?" Stafford's Georgia team was preseason #1 and they underperformed this year. I see all the posts about Cassel only being a good trade if he wins a Super Bowl in the next several years, but yet winning at the college level for Stafford doesn't show anything?


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:51 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.