iso- 4x8 3 on one off 3 on. drink lots of water.

4 exercises for each muscle group. so one day you do arms 4x8x4 Bis 4x8x4 Tris.
i did 1)arms/shoulders 2)legs/lower back 3)upper back/chest 4)off

hard work is the only way to get natural gains.

Are you guys injecting this stuff?

I think stupid replies are the ones with replies of 'stupid' and nothing else.

P90x seems to make you cut legally. So you're saying it's a lie huh?

LOL, no.

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lol

jesus ****ing christ

If you are wanting to look good, your question should have been to the chicks on the board. It should have been "what looks better, a bulked up cut look, or a lean cut look?" I used to lift real heavy weights and take aminos and whey protein in order to add mass and size. Most gals I know think that look is really sort of funny, not hot. My wife tells me she thinks lean and cut is way hotter than bulky. Not to mention that when you get old enough that the metabolism really slows down, or a joint injury prevents you from working out, guess what happens to all that mass you built up? It turns to crap and you look bulky and uncut. Forever! Do what your body was designed to do. Lots of cardio (think of chasing and being chased by animals), eat lots of lean protein and fruits and vegetables. Take in 5 or 6 smaller meals a day. Lift with lots of reps of lighter weights. Train your core (abs, back, hips, gluts) hard daily

Ok bad choice of words. It was probably helping during the healing process, but I swear as soon as I started drinking that shit my stomach got flabby and when I quit it tightened back up.

Creatine doesnt help your muscles retain water?

Wow. I read through this entire thread and there is alot of bad advice. First off, if you dont really know what creatine does then you really have no business messing with any type of pro-hormone or steroids. 2nd of all, the only legal steroids are ones given to by perscription by your Dr. 3rd, pro-hormones or any other oral steroids are not legal either....the real ones aren't. There are shady websites around that will sell u stuff that may or may not work. The old addage about steroids applies here, Oral steroids: all the bad side effects of REAL steroids with almost none of the benefits. FWIW, I have taken pro-hormone type oral "steroids" in the past *(they dont call them steroids) and YES I did have brief size and strength gains but they were temporary...they go away almost as soon as you quit taking them no matter how hard you keep working out. There is a reason the pro's take the real steroids for 16+ weeks, thats how u keep your gains. My whole-hearted honest recommendation would be to eat plenty of good quality protein, a good quality CEE (creatine ethyl ester), lots of water and eat lots of good food. Stay away from the drugs, especially oral type of steroids because the negative side-effects outweigh the brief positives. You only have one liver.

No it does in fact, and I can demonstrate this not only by weight going up but by body water percentage also increasing. That said, creatine has been shown in actual medical studies to have a statistically significant gain in muscle mass.

I actually started using it way back in college but stopped a while ago, I started back again for my workouts, when I was talking to my dad about workouts and he actually mentioned it(he's an actual MD). Studies back up that it does help gain. Not nearly as huge as steriods obviously but also not the side effects.

interesting thread.

enough books have been written about this to fill the grand canyon. people will argue about it until the end of time.

it sounds like what is wanted is a shortcut but you're concerned about the risks. instead of worrying that your liver is going to blow up or something, why not just do the sure thing? make the requisite lifestyle changes.

First off you need to have your diet in check before you worry about any supplements or they won't be doing a whole lot of good. I don't know when you workout (you should be working out atleast 3-4 times per week) I go Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, I go upper body monday and thursday, lower body tuesday and friday. So go get yourself a gym membership. I don't know what your goals are exactly...For breakfast eat complex carbs and slow digesting protein such as oatmeal, eggs, and a banana. I don't know when/if you work out. but preworkout you want carbs and protein again, workout hard absolutely push yourself-you have to put in hard work in and out of the gym you can't have one without the other, especially after your beginner gains. Post workout speed is the key replenishing lost nutrients and rebuilding muscle fibers, so a quick acting protein like whey protein, along with fast acting carbs, and creatine is great here. I personally use universal torrent for postwork (a supplement that be found at bodybuilding.com) You should be eating 6 meals a day. Drink lots of water and eat a veggie with lunch and supper. Avoid processed foods, fats, beer, soda as much as possible I realize you may need a little once in awhile to keep yourself sain. You should get 20-30 grams of protein with each meal try to pick a main healthy protein, carb, and healthy fat source- aim for 1.5 g's of protein per pound of bodyweight each day. Before bed, Slow acting protein also known as casein protein is big to help fuel your body throughout the night so you don't go into the catabolic state. So milk and eggs or cottage cheeese is a good choice here. It takes hard work, consistency, motivation, and the willpower to follow through. Btw a GREAT place to learn about dieting, workouts, supplements, everything you possible need can be found at bodybuilding.com, and not chiefsplanet :) And heres to a happy transformation!

Your diet had to have sucked, then. Did you track your calories in/out? I suspect the answer to that is "No."

First thing you've said that is a great idea.