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EyePod 04-26-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5716078)
We had what was universally agreed upon as the best draft last year. Now everyone's saying it was awful with the exception of Flowers.

I don't know if everyone's saying that. I think some people are just saying it's less useful now that we're going to the 3-4. And I know I'm worried about Flowers in the non Tampon-2.... :/

EyePod 04-26-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5716663)
These last two days have really cracked me up. I think Pioli's quote about taking the 'right' players, not necessarily the 'best' players is a strange thing to watch when put into practice.

I agree. But the Patriots are constantly questioned on their picks (this helps me sleep better at night).

htismaqe 04-26-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5716650)
i understand the first 3 picks, their motives and rationale seem pretty clear, and think they'll turn out to be good players....though i'm not sold on cassel, Halioli is...

i don't understand the rest of the picks really....seems a wierd mix of bpa and wtf-leftfield?....so i guess we'll find out early how good their instincts are....because it seems like we passed on a lot of safer (perception, of course) picks at positions of need (OL and LB)...

again, a hard draft to love...but it has "upside"...lol

I don't love the draft at all. I just don't hate it either. I mean, what the hell influence do I have over it?

htismaqe 04-26-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5717208)
I agree. But the Patriots are constantly questioned on their picks (this helps me sleep better at night).

This.

EyePod 04-26-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5716647)
Adrian Jones was EASILY the weakest link on the line. It's hard to know how much of a detrimental effect he had on both McIntosh and Niswanger. Getting Goff was a huge upgrade, and it's possible that they think that might be enough until some more cuts go down...

Also, McIntosh definitely looked better (even besides the crazy awesome block) towards the end of the season. Let's just hope he is finally getting a handle on it...

EyePod 04-26-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5716650)
i understand the first 3 picks, their motives and rationale seem pretty clear, and think they'll turn out to be good players....though i'm not sold on cassel, Halioli is...

i don't understand the rest of the picks really....seems a wierd mix of bpa and wtf-leftfield?....so i guess we'll find out early how good their instincts are....because it seems like we passed on a lot of safer (perception, of course) picks at positions of need (OL and LB)...

again, a hard draft to love...but it has "upside"...lol

Yeah!! There was no way that last year's draft could have lived up to its expectation. This draft has no where to go but up!

el borracho 04-26-2009 09:24 PM

Perhaps this draft was so deep in OL that Pioli believes guys will be available as rookie free-agents who in other years would require a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick. :shrug:

el borracho 04-26-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5717314)
Yeah!! There was no way that last year's draft could have lived up to its expectation. This draft has no where to go but up!

It was easier to embrace last year's draft, that is for sure. Who out of this years class do we imagine going to the ProBowl?

The big run-stoppers?-not likely.
The corner who will start the season behind Flowers and Carr?- maybe one day.
The giant OT who appears to be a giant reach?- I can't imagine
Any of the various projects from late on the 2nd day?-your guess is as good as mine.

There just weren't any draft day heroes in the bunch.

htismaqe 04-26-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5717323)
Perhaps this draft was so deep in OL that Pioli believes guys will be available as rookie free-agents who in other years would require a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick. :shrug:

Very possible.

KcFanInGA 04-26-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5717323)
Perhaps this draft was so deep in OL that Pioli believes guys will be available as rookie free-agents who in other years would require a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick. :shrug:

Exactly.:thumb:

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5716358)
Jesus, Mecca. They took 3 C's in the 1st.

Reaches were abound EVERYWHERE for OL in this draft.

Rookie OL have the easiest transitions to the NFL. Unlike WRs, TEs, and DL, where we picked abundantly.

Wrong.

TWO centers went the first.

The consensus best center in years at #21 in Alex Mack, and Eric Wood at #28.

Seattle gave up picks in the second to get Max Unger.

If you've never watched these guys play, you might think it's a reach.

But in no way, shape or form did those teams reach.

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5717219)
I don't love the draft at all. I just don't hate it either. I mean, what the hell influence do I have over it?

I would have rather had Mark Sanchez and Max Unger/Ron Brace/Rey Rey over Matt Cassel, Tyson Jackson and Vrabel.

I don't care for the selection of Washington (what the hell is wrong with Flowers, Carr & Leggett?), Colin Brown and Jake O'Connell are major head-scratchers.

Let's just hope that the Chiefs were right this weekend. Because on paper, it pretty much looks like dogshit.

EyePod 04-26-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5717352)
It was easier to embrace last year's draft, that is for sure. Who out of this years class do we imagine going to the ProBowl?

The big run-stoppers?-not likely.
The corner who will start the season behind Flowers and Carr?- maybe one day.
The giant OT who appears to be a giant reach?- I can't imagine
Any of the various projects from late on the 2nd day?-your guess is as good as mine.

There just weren't any draft day heroes in the bunch.

I don't care if we have pro-bowlers. I just want a SB. Oh, and don't forget about Leggett either! And Washington can play FS too, so maybe Page's job wasn't as safe as I thought. And what ever happened to DaJuan Morgan?

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5716378)
There was a ton of outstanding 2nd day OL value this year.

Of which the Chiefs chose not to partake...

EyePod 04-26-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5717374)
Wrong.

TWO centers went the first.

The consensus best center in years at #21 in Alex Mack, and Eric Wood at #28.

Seattle gave up picks in the second to get Max Unger.

If you've never watched these guys play, you might think it's a reach.

But in no way, shape or form did those teams reach.

A really good center can really boost a team's performance. Look at what Jeff Saturday does in Indy.


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