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Reaper16 05-14-2009 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5766103)
You can't risk something you don't have. They made a decision.

Right or wrong, it's not a RISK, just a decision.
That definition you provided said "injury or loss." Loss wasn't necessitated.

You seem to be using risk like one would use the word "bet." I can see how one can't realistically bet what they don't have. But I don't see risk necessarily working in that way. Risk is a probability of sorts arising from uncertainty of outcome.

Reaper16 05-14-2009 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5766140)
But they did trade for Cassel, so obviously they feel it has been addressed.
Yeah, I said as much way earlier this thread, too.

DaneMcCloud 05-14-2009 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5766136)
Not taking Mark Sanchez (and let's be honest, because that's entirely what this is about) is NOT taking a risk. Even if he turns out to be good in New York, that's not indicative of whether or not he would have been good here. There's too many variables at work.

We didn't give up anything to NOT draft him, therefore there's no risk. Now if you want to talk about Cassel and his risk, by all means. But there is no risk in not taking somebody. Zero.
Come on.

That like saying taking Todd Blackledge over Dan Marion or Ken O'Brien didn't involve risk.

Every single move that a team makes involves risk. Period.

vailpass 05-14-2009 04:42 PM
Wonder what kind of article this guy would have written if KC had retained Carl and was heading into the season with Thigpen as the starter?

DaneMcCloud 05-14-2009 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 5766164)
Wonder what kind of article this guy would have written if KC had retained Carl and was heading into the season with Thigpen as the starter?
Fortunately, we'll never find out.

vailpass 05-14-2009 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5766170)
Fortunately, we'll never find out.
No doubt, I'd feel the same way were I you. KC tried to make themselves better and what else can you want as a fan?
Unless/until a team is winning it seems like they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Of course a sports writer has to find something to keep his job going in the offseason.

htismaqe 05-14-2009 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5766163)
Come on.

That like saying taking Todd Blackledge over Dan Marion or Ken O'Brien didn't involve risk.

Every single move that a team makes involves risk. Period.
They TOOK Todd Blackledge, which is a risk all by itself. Dan Marino and Ken O'Brien have nothing to do with it. An unquantifiable risk is not a risk.

htismaqe 05-14-2009 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5766153)
That definition you provided said "injury or loss." Loss wasn't necessitated.

You seem to be using risk like one would use the word "bet." I can see how one can't realistically bet what they don't have. But I don't see risk necessarily working in that way. Risk is a probability of sorts arising from uncertainty of outcome.
Yes, injury or loss. By definition you can't lose something you never had, which leaves the word "injury". Are you going to try to tell me that not taking Sanchez "harms" the franchise?

That's RIDICULOUS.

Reaper16 05-14-2009 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5766483)
Yes, injury or loss. By definition you can't lose something you never had, which leaves the word "injury". Are you going to try to tell me that not taking Sanchez "harms" the franchise?

That's RIDICULOUS.
Yeah, not taking Sanchez could really harm the franchise.

htismaqe 05-14-2009 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5766491)
Yeah, not taking Sanchez could really harm the franchise.
I'm doing my best not to just laugh.

Reaper16 05-14-2009 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5766524)
I'm doing my best not to just laugh.
You are putting clownshoes on yourself. How would botching the Cassel vs Sanchez choice not be harmful?

htismaqe 05-14-2009 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5766557)
You are putting clownshoes on yourself. How would botching the Cassel vs Sanchez choice not be harmful?
First of all, if there actually WERE a choice between the two, then that's a completely different argument. The RISK is in Cassel, not passing on Sanchez. Passing on Sanchez is not a risk, at all. Again, you can't lose something you don't have.

Second, there was NO CHOICE. They picked up Cassel in February and never sniffed Sanchez, so the "choice" was 100% created by us.

htismaqe 05-14-2009 07:58 PM
By the way, risk is quantifiable. There's no way to quantify the "harm" of passing on Sanchez because we'll never see him play as a Chief.

Reerun_KC 05-14-2009 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5766524)
I'm doing my best not to just laugh.
I am doing my best not to cry.... I want to have a QBoTF and someone that can lead this team for years to come...

Reaper16 05-14-2009 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5766634)
First of all, if there actually WERE a choice between the two, then that's a completely different argument. The RISK is in Cassel, not passing on Sanchez. Passing on Sanchez is not a risk, at all. Again, you can't lose something you don't have.

Second, there was NO CHOICE. They picked up Cassel in February and never sniffed Sanchez, so the "choice" was 100% created by us.
OK, I think I see a place where we're differing at. I don't see any difference between taking Cassel and passing on Sanchez. For all intents and purposes, they are the very same thing. The acquisition of Cassel WAS a pass on Sanchez.


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