Even with how bad the Oline is, I think the first pick HAS to be a top flight NT such as Cody, or a Safety like Mays or Berry. Our defense needs a Polomalu, Reed, Sanders, Taylor(what he was/and still would be). We can still address the Oline in the second round though since we already have a first round LT.

There were more Texas players, and all but DJ were top 7 picks. Everyone you list there, save Bush, were taken later. Texas players, especially their high picks, fail at a much higher rate than players from other schools. LSU, Florida, OSU, Oklahoma, etc.

You can't equate a #29 pick busting to a #7 pick busting.

This.

I said nothing about hating Texas, that's bullshit. It's a red herring at best.

I said, multiple times, that Shipley lacks size, speed, quickness, he's old for a prospect, he's coming from a program with a bad track record, and he's coming from an offensive system that doesn't correlate well to NFL success.

If you don't believe that, then fine. But at least make an honest argument and don't lie about what I said.

Well, if we are looking to fix the RIGHT side of our line we SHOULD be looking in the 2nd rd. I could see us go for a NT, an ELITE DE/OLB (Kindle, etc) or ELITE S (Mays, Berry) ... none of those picks would bother me in the least. The only other pick would be QB (if Cassel flops) or WR (if one shoots up the boards)... otherwise defense is the way to go.

But next year you do that at #1?

WTF?

It's not what they should do, he's projecting what they will do. Walter Football sees Pioli as a bonehead, hence their draft grades and excoriation of his personnel moves.

33) Kansas City Chiefs: Eric Norwood, DE/OLB, South Carolina
The smart move here would be to add a rush linebacker to help an anemic pass rush that won't be any better in 2009 than it was in 2008. Eric Norwood opened the season with two sacks against N.C. State. He had 14.5 TFL and nine sacks in 2008.


I'm intrigued by Norwood. It's to early to say but he could be a really good pick at #33.

PhilFree:arrow:

I translated and added emphasis to the bolded part... maybe HATE would be strong but it seems you have a decided anti-texas BIAS at the least.

And I did counter the speed argument and the system argument in regards to WRs (Williams, Sweed, Finley, etc).. I will now counter the size argument... while not HUGE.. he is listed at 6'1" which is probably a solid 6" AGAIN I am not arguing he is a superstar but I will bet he will be solid. Guys like Shipley and Welker accomplish most of what they do based on their internal drive.

We just can't pick a QB next year, even if Cassel is awful. Of course, that's also why we should have given him this year as an audition (plus we owned his rights in the advent of an uncapped year, so he couldn't leave via FA). Other than that, I agree. My enthusiasm for Kindle is tempered somewhat by UTs track record, but they are better at producing defensive linemen than other positions (DB, OL, QB, RB, etc.)

No, this sentence is either true in 2009 and 2010.... or it's not true in either year.

Pioli can afford to draft a franchise left tackle and move Albert around in an effort to give Cassel more time in the pocket.

Cody isn't top flight, he's a fringe 1st round prospect that plays two downs in college and has conditioning issues. He's more likely to eat himself out of the league after getting a big payday than he is to make a single pro bowl.

Yes, you're right. I'm conflating McGuire with the other guy.

I agree actually with the QB pick assessment BUT I was just saying what picks wouldn't make me sick. I wouldn't be sick by the pick of a QB just sick that we wasted so much on Cassel (this is IF Cassel flops, not a projection here...)... As for Kindle, I am actually holding back total judgement on him until I see 2-3 more games... but I have a "feeling" he will be damn good in the NFL...