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Mecca 09-17-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 6080443)
It is not their job to prepare them for the next level.. Their job is to win games, conferences and titles..


My prediction is the NFL starts getting more gimmicky which you will hate..

Like I said the spread is a formation at the next level it won't be the basis of an entire offense. All teams have gimmick plays and even sets, the wildcat for example but no team is going to base an entire offense on it.

It may not be their job to prepare players for the next level but the kids will become aware of it, and there will be some that choose schools that prepare them for the next level.

Valiant 09-17-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6080446)
Like I said the spread is a formation at the next level it won't be the basis of an entire offense. All teams have gimmick plays and even sets, the wildcat for example but no team is going to base an entire offense on it.

It may not be their job to prepare players for the next level but the kids will become aware of it, and there will be some that choose schools that prepare them for the next level.

I will not argue with that on kids choosing schools over their chance at the NFL.. More of the point was that these schools have to be different because they will never win the recruiting battle against certain schools.. If they want to win their conference, BCS games and the like they have to employ the spread or option of the past..

The marquee schools are always going to get the bigger/faster/stronger players that will transition into the NFL easier then other schools..

Mecca 09-17-2009 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 6080452)
I will not argue with that on kids choosing schools over their chance at the NFL.. More of the point was that these schools have to be different because they will never win the recruiting battle against certain schools.. If they want to win their conference, BCS games and the like they have to employ the spread or option of the past..

The marquee schools are always going to get the bigger/faster/stronger players that will transition into the NFL easier then other schools..

What you just said is why I think it's dumb for teams like Texas, Oklahoma, Florida and Michigan to run the spread, they got top notch recruiting classes to begin with.

DaKCMan AP 09-17-2009 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6080460)
What you just said is why I think it's dumb for teams like Texas, Oklahoma, Florida and Michigan to run the spread, they got top notch recruiting classes to begin with.

Them Championship trophies ain't dumb.

htismaqe 09-17-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6080297)
Eventually QBs will realize that they are being dropped down boards due to the increased learning curve, the fact that they lack proper mechanics and footwork, and the fact that most of them put up big stats but have weak arm strength, and not a goddamned one of them can read a defense for shit.

What you've essentially said here is that eventually QB's will realize that playing in the college spread is costing them MONEY and they'll start going only to schools that play drop-back offenses. Over time, COLLEGES will be forced to move away from the spread and back to traditional offenses as the talent pool for QB continues to dry up.

It's essentially the inverse of my argument, and I like it. I'm listening.

htismaqe 09-17-2009 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6080387)
Eh the spread has really screwed up alot of stuff, now we have all these midget QB's or guys not getting proper coaching for the next level.

Of course frankly how many top notch QB's are there? There are never going to be enough for every NFL team to have one that's just how it works. The spread fixation I think will mean less so the NFL teams will pine even more for one.

There's a dearth of NFL-ready QB's now, that's true. What I'm talking about is what might happen if there were NONE. There's a big difference between endangered and EXTINCT.

htismaqe 09-17-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6080408)
If you look at the QB class for next year:

Jevan Snead is the only legit QB prospect from a pro system. He's a lot like Jay Cutler, with a little less arm strength. I have no idea as to his mental makeup.

Bradford is a spread monkey with lots of question marks about his ability to read a defense, play from under center, footwork, and arm strength.

McCoy has all the same questions as Bradford, with a checkered injury history and a smaller frame. He's built a lot like Brodie Croyle.

Tebow is a future NFL special teams player. He has an awful throwing motion with all the questions of Bradford. He's basically a white Charlie Ward. Great college player who has no position in the NFL

There are a couple of MAC QBs in Hiller and LeFevour, and Tony Pike who are interesting specimens, but have a lot of concerns with scheme, injury, etc.

It's a bad, bad class. The lack of depth of last year with the lack of a top end prospect.

And what I'm saying is that there's going to be more classes like this years. It's not gonna happen overnight, but if we got classes like this, say, every year over 6-7 years, there would HAVE to be a paradigm shift in the NFL.

htismaqe 09-17-2009 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6080460)
What you just said is why I think it's dumb for teams like Texas, Oklahoma, Florida and Michigan to run the spread, they got top notch recruiting classes to begin with.

They run it because it gives them that little bit extra of an edge.


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