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Hammock Parties 09-27-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6115686)
Yup.

The first half was filled with Saunders playcalls where they had some innovative short plays designed for about 5 yards. Like Gailey's offense, they were gimmicky plays and it's only a matter of time before the defense adjusts to it.

Sorry, no comparison.

dirk digler 09-27-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 6115699)
Can it get any worse?

Wait until next week

SenselessChiefsFan 09-27-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6115592)
People are concerned with that because when you scream and yell and basically make an ass of yourself saying my way works etc etc..

Then you get your ass kicked and that guy basically calls plays that wave the white flag...it sends a funky message to players.


It is all about getting players to buy in. That is the key to any system..... and coach. It is communication and selling your program.

Giving up in the third quarter..... ain't selling guys on anything.

BigRedChief 09-27-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6115668)
In FA or the draft?

FA obviously. What draft pick did we pass on because of cap room?

KcMizzou 09-27-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6115692)
The ****ing game where we blew a 17 point lead at home?

How is this game, in any way, reminiscent of that one?

Well, it was the same opponent, I guess. LMAO

Mecca 09-27-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 6115695)
I keep asking that question.

Only Chiefzilla has given me some possible FAs and, while I agree with him that they'd be better than some of our current players, they're still second-tier people.

I'm looking for those blue-chip FAs everyone's convinced we didn't pursue.

Jason Brown was out there.

Dr. Johnny Fever 09-27-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6115511)
With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

god you're an idiot

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6115661)
Cap room could have been used for FA. Tell me an available OL that was available and we passed on them?

FA: Jason Brown, Ray Willis.

Draft: Round 2: Eben Britton, Max Unger, Andy Levitre, William Beatty (Cassel Trade)
Round 3: (Magee): Antoine Caldwell, Kraig Urbik, Louis Vazquez
Round 4: Jonathan Luigs
Round 5: Duke Robinson, Fenuki Tupou


Just a few.

chiefzilla1501 09-27-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6115703)
Sorry, no comparison.

Very valid comparison.

When your offensive line is incapable of giving your QB even a fraction of a second to throw the ball, you are very limited in the kinds of plays you can run. You're limited mostly to quick screens to the RBs and WRs and the QB has no time to go through any kinds of progressions.

The Chiefs did that to perfection against Philly that game with Green. And then the defense adjusted because they knew exactly what the Chiefs were going to do. In games like this when you're horribly outmatched on the o-line, your choice is to run the ball unsuccessfully, go for a long pass play where you're more than likely going to get sacked, or rely exclusively on a passing game that demands that you get rid of the ball right after the ball is snapped. None of those options is attractive.

SenselessChiefsFan 09-27-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6115683)
Wait, after 3 games he's going to lose the team? Really?

When a head coach acts like he is the savior...... is a complete hardass and then:

calls a bad game against an Oakland team that you should beat.

And, follows that up by calling a worse game AND clearly giving up before even the fourth quarter.

Yeah, I'm afraid it is possible to lose the team.

FloridaMan88 09-27-2009 02:56 PM

This team has no talent. You could have Belicheck/Bill Walsh/Vince Lombardi/Jimmy Johnson... whoever coaching this team and it wouldn't matter.

Pioli sat on his fat, 800 pound ass this offseason and did virtually nothing to upgrade the blatant lack of talent on the Chiefs roster.

I'm putting most of the blame for this mess on Pioli.

Mama Hip Rockets 09-27-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 6115615)
and you sure are smart typing a dumbass post like this behind your keyboard

where would you recommend i type it from? in front of my keyboard?

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 09-27-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6115735)
This team has no talent. You could have Belicheck/Bill Walsh/Vince Lombardi/Jimmy Johnson... whoever coaching this team and it wouldn't matter.

Pioli sat on his fat, 800 pound ass this offseason and did virtually nothing to upgrade the blatant lack of talent on the Chiefs roster.

I'm putting most of the blame for this mess on Pioli.

Again, I'm asking.

Who should he have brought in?

Names would be useful. Not just an amorphous "he should have done something". What should he have done? Who was available who should have been brought in?

I agree, there were some fuzzy picks in the draft.

I want to know who these magic FAs were.

chiefzilla1501 09-27-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6115731)
Very valid comparison.

When your offensive line is incapable of giving your QB even a fraction of a second to throw the ball, you are very limited in the kinds of plays you can run. You're limited mostly to quick screens to the RBs and WRs and the QB has no time to go through any kinds of progressions.

The Chiefs did that to perfection against Philly that game with Green. And then the defense adjusted because they knew exactly what the Chiefs were going to do. In games like this when you're horribly outmatched on the o-line, your choice is to run the ball unsuccessfully, go for a long pass play where you're more than likely going to get sacked, or rely exclusively on a passing game that demands that you get rid of the ball right after the ball is snapped. None of those options is attractive.

Let me add one more...
2008. You have no pass protection. So what do you do? You run a gimmick spread offense because it's the only way you can get a pass play off without getting sacked.

We can criticize Haley for his playcalling. But when you can't protect your QB, you throw away 50% of your playbook and 45% of your playbook doesn't work nearly as well as it should.

petegz28 09-27-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6115735)
This team has no talent. You could have Belicheck/Bill Walsh/Vince Lombardi/Jimmy Johnson... whoever coaching this team and it wouldn't matter.

Pioli sat on his fat, 800 pound ass this offseason and did virtually nothing to upgrade the blatant lack of talent on the Chiefs roster.

I'm putting most of the blame for this mess on Pioli.

yeah, cause Pioli didn't sign 10 pro-bowlers in 8 months


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