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OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2009 03:21 PM
Either people are too naive to see through the coach-speak, or are just flat out too ignorant to do so.

Opposing coaches aren't going to say the guy is a bum, but it's pretty ****ing obvious that they are fluffing the guy because there's no one else to fluff when they say shit like the Dallas staff said.

Paraphrasing, "He's (Hali) the best pass rusher we've seen yet this year."

I.

Call.

Bullshit.

Julius Peppers, Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora and Elvis Dumerville would like to have a word with you...

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2009 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6174604)
Either people are too naive to see through the coach-speak, or are just flat out too ignorant to do so.

Opposing coaches aren't going to say the guy is a bum, but it's pretty ****ing obvious that they are fluffing the guy because there's no one else to fluff when they say shit like the Dallas staff said.

Paraphrasing, "He's (Hali) the best pass rusher we've seen yet this year."

I.

Call.

Bullshit.

Julius Peppers, Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora and Elvis Dumerville would like to have a word with you...
Hali has 11 tackles, 3 assists and 2 sacks through 5 games.

I'm sure Kevin Gilbride, Andy Reid and Jason Garrett lost sleep preparing for Hali.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2009 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6174624)
Hali has 11 tackles, 3 assists and 2 sacks through 5 games.

I'm sure Kevin Gilbride, Andy Reid and Jason Garrett lost sleep preparing for Hali.
This.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2009 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6174624)
Hali has 11 tackles, 3 assists and 2 sacks through 5 games.

I'm sure Kevin Gilbride, Andy Reid and Jason Garrett lost sleep preparing for Hali.
But, he's the best pass rusher they faced?

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2009 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6174667)
But, he's the best pass rusher they faced?
According to SensibleButt**** and the living Ken Doll (Buster Hyman), he's an All-Pro, Hall of Famer.

In reality, he's just a "guy". If he went to a team with a great defense, he could probably make some noise because the offense would be concerned with the better players (like 2006 in KC).

But he's just a "guy".

staylor26 10-15-2009 03:38 PM
Sacks don't tell the whole story. Like Haley said in his PC there was atleast 1 holding penalty called on the LT last week (would have been a sack for sure), and could have been called several other times. I don't see how anybody watched the past 5 games and ahsn't notice Hali consistently beating the LT? Also, he might have only had 2 sacks last season, but I'm almost 100% sure they said during one of this years games that he led the NFL in QB hurries in 08

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2009 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 6174690)
Sacks don't tell the whole story. Like Haley said in his PC there was atleast 1 holding penalty called on the LT last week (would have been a sack for sure), and could have been called several other times. I don't see how anybody watched the past 5 games and ahsn't notice Hali consistently beating the LT? Also, he might have only had 2 sacks last season, but I'm almost 100% sure they said during one of this years games that he led the NFL in QB hurries in 08
11 tackles in 5 games tells a story.

And not a very good story I might add.

chiefs1111 10-15-2009 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6174624)
Hali has 11 tackles, 3 assists and 2 sacks through 5 games.

I'm sure Kevin Gilbride, Andy Reid and Jason Garrett lost sleep preparing for Hali.
But Mr Juco football star The Guardian said Hali was going to be awesome.... ROFL

Halfcan 10-15-2009 03:45 PM
Hali has done enough to be consider in trade discusions-lol

staylor26 10-15-2009 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6174699)
11 tackles in 5 games tells a story.

And not a very good story I might add.
What does that have to do with pass-rushing? He's a WLB though so his tackle totals are never going to be impressive. His job is simply to get to the QB, and he's done a good job of it. QB hurries and holding penatlies aren't sacks, but they count for something. He's also excellent at knocking the ball loose when he gets there, something he's always done fairly well and did on both his sacks this season.

el borracho 10-15-2009 06:35 PM
Seriously? :shake:

It is soooo sad that anyone can even make the argument that Tamba Hali might be our best defensive player. Get some perspective, people. Tamba Hali is an NFL nobody. Even Jimmy Wilkerson is a superior player.

el borracho 10-15-2009 06:36 PM
Seriously? :shake:

It is soooo sad that anyone can even make the argument that Tamba Hali might be our best defensive player. Get some perspective, people. Tamba Hali is an NFL nobody. Even Jimmy Wilkerson is a superior player.

el borracho 10-15-2009 06:38 PM
Ha! Just looked at the stats on NFL.com.... Gilberry is better than Hali.

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2009 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 6174801)
What does that have to do with pass-rushing? He's a WLB though so his tackle totals are never going to be impressive.
I hope it's more than 35 tackles a year! Which is what his totals to date project.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 6174801)
His job is simply to get to the QB, and he's done a good job of it. QB hurries and holding penatlies aren't sacks, but they count for something. He's also excellent at knocking the ball loose when he gets there, something he's always done fairly well and did on both his sacks this season.
He's had two FF this season. And two sacks. That's just not very impressive.

Do I think he'd improve upon those numbers with a better front seven? Absolutely.

But it just doesn't appear that the guy will ever be a Joey Porter/John Abraham/James Harrison type of dominant player.

tonyetony 10-15-2009 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 6173580)
Actually the show host brought that up and Martellus then laughed and made fun of himself. BTW this was all done in a funny sort of way - Bennet is quite a clown. Look up MartyBTV on youtube.

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This is why I stop by the planet. I got totally side tracked and watched all his stupid videos, thanks.

Marty's a pretty funny dude actually and reminds me of someone I know.


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