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DeezNutz 10-18-2009 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6185134)
Really? That's funny, because so many of his supporters were quick to annoint him as a stud in the making after 5 games. Look, a lot of Chiefs' fans have been screaming up and down about how the Chiefs made an astronomically horrible decision by passing up Sanchez over Cassel. After only 5 games!

I've said a million times that I think Sanchez will ultimately be better than Cassel, but it's ridiculous to make that judgment based on a few games in entirely different team situations.

I never said here that this is a ringing endorsement for Cassel. And I've never made any kind of an indictment on Sanchez. I'm just criticizing the ridiculous Cassel critics who scream at the top of their lungs about how Sanchez was such an outstanding QB and Cassel is just plain lousy.
Your last line is reductive, thus obscuring a shit ton.

doomy3 10-18-2009 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6185138)
Did I say that?

Don't use such ridiculous hyperbole in your comparison, and I won't call nonsense.
OK. Instead of saying anything about Cassel then, I will just say that Sanchez has looked like Jamarcus Russel without the arm strength today. And that isn't any kind of hyperbole.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6185140)
so...

Sanchez >>>>> Cassel

?
When this team is at the point of a rebuild chronologically where they should be able to compete?

Absolutely.

chiefzilla1501 10-18-2009 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6185141)
He plays on the Kansas City Chiefs. If he was on Jets he would have a few 300 yard games by now. Sanchez has a running game, an OL, and a defense and he still SUCKS.
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Dude, don't be ridiculous. He doesn't suck.

Pioli Zombie 10-18-2009 05:09 PM
Btw, not every rookie qb sucks this bad. Ryan didn't. Flacco didn't. Ben didn't. Stafford hasn't. Face it, Sanchez was overhyped and just not that good. Pioli knew that and knew he couldn't get Stafford. So he got Cassel.
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DeezNutz 10-18-2009 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6185145)
OK. Instead of saying anything about Cassel then, I will just say that Sanchez has looked like Jamarcus Russel without the arm strength today. And that isn't any kind of hyperbole.
The stat line is beyond bad. But, fundamentally, has he looked like a complete ****ing mess?

If so, I'd be on board with the JR analogy. My guess, probably not.

doomy3 10-18-2009 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6185147)
Dude, don't be ridiculous. He doesn't suck.
His arm strength is a major question mark IMO. And the playing conditions in NY will be interesting for that too. His strength is supposed to be decision making and the intangibles. Games like this most definitely put that into question. He also fumbled (again) today, and luckily recovered it himself. No one was even around him when that happened. His ball security has absolutely sucked so far.

doomy3 10-18-2009 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6185152)
The stat line is beyond bad. But, fundamentally, has he looked like a complete ****ing mess?

If so, I'd be on board with the JR analogy. My guess, probably not.
Yes, he has looked completely lost. His arm strength hasn't been close to adequate on anything outside the numbers or downfield. And he has made awful decisions. It has been brutal.

Pioli Zombie 10-18-2009 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6185147)
Dude, don't be ridiculous. He doesn't suck.
Based on his play he sure does. What's his qb rating now, 24 or something?
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DeezNutz 10-18-2009 05:10 PM
I'd love to see the reactions of the KC fans if we ever drafted and attempted to develop a legit QB prospect, a round-one guy.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-18-2009 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6185147)
Dude, don't be ridiculous. He doesn't suck.
That's the beauty of these dumbasses.

Everything is a strawman, a false choice, correlation implying causation, or any other myriad of logical fallacies and misrepresentation.

Oh, and people who liked Sanchez as a prospect never criticize anything he does, or ever praise Cassel because they hate the Chiefs.

mlyonsd 10-18-2009 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6185147)
Dude, don't be ridiculous. He doesn't suck.
You're correct. He doesn't suck. I just want him to completely look like Todd Blackledge.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-18-2009 05:13 PM
****in INTchez ballwashers.

Pioli Zombie 10-18-2009 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6185158)
I'd love to see the reactions of the KC fans if we ever drafted and attempted to develop a legit QB prospect, a round-one guy.
If there was one available they would have done so.
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DeezNutz 10-18-2009 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6185159)
That's the beauty of these dumbasses.

Everything is a strawman, a false choice, correlation implying causation, or any other myriad of logical fallacies and misrepresentation.

Oh, and people who liked Sanchez as a prospect never criticize anything he does, or ever praise Cassel because they hate the Chiefs.
The next time a QB, any QB, goes in a shell, refuses to push the ball, or makes an atrocious mental mistake, Cassel will be an appropriate verb, apparently.

Because that would be intellectually honest.


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