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RustShack 10-27-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6212990)
Alleman CANNOT play center. He's got back issues.

Hell, he had back spasms after playing GUARD against the Cowboys.

The guy has talent but he's never been healthy.

Unless hes playing a 3-4 defense he would be better off at C than G then. Hell even against a 3-4 he wouldn't be the only guy against the NT.

DaneMcCloud 10-27-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6212996)
Unless hes playing a 3-4 defense he would be better off at C than G then. Hell even against a 3-4 he wouldn't be the only guy against the NT.

It DOES NOT MATTER.

Do you know ANYTHING about the guy, or just his name?

He's had back issues dating back to college. Why do you think the Miami Dolphins traded him? He cannot stay healthy.

JFC.

TEX 10-27-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6211084)
it sure would be sweet if Wade Smith solidifies the starting center position and Rudy is inserted at RG whenever he returns.

This isnt a total abortion of a oline:

Albert
Waters
Smith
Rudy
Ocallahan


It's pretty close.

RustShack 10-27-2009 06:19 PM

The Chiefs must think he has game if they still have him. He must think he has game if he hasn't retired. Play him until he gets hurt, theres no point in having a guy on the roster if your afraid to use him.

TEX 10-27-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6212974)
I think Albert will get better as the year goes on. He got away with a lot of poor technique last year due to being a spread offense and especially because he played at a higher weight. At least we know he has the athleticism--he just needs to work on limiting the mistakes and working on consistent technique.

Smith can at least play average, whereas Niswanger is garbage at Center.

Alleman isn't a great guard, but he's a huge upgrade over Goff who is an abortion on almost every single play.

This o-line isn't going to be great. But I think it can be upgraded to serviceable if only Haley had the guts to put the right 5 on the field. I don't get it. Smith outplayed Niswanger on Sunday by miles. And Goff has been ****ing up all season long. I just don't get why it's taken him so long to make a move.

I bet Albert's not the starting LT 2 years from now.

chiefzilla1501 10-27-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6213006)
I bet Albert's not the starting LT 2 years from now.

I'm not even making that bet.

He has to learn technique. He's not going to learn it right away. If he doesn't learn it, he doesn't play. If he does, he plays. But it's hard to imagine he won't get at least a little better as he becomes more consistent with technique. And right now, I just want improvement from stopgaps until we can finally get some real pieces.

DaneMcCloud 10-27-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6213005)
The Chiefs must think he has game if they still have him. He must think he has game if he hasn't retired. Play him until he gets hurt, theres no point in having a guy on the roster if your afraid to use him.

Dude, he's not a ****ing center.

End of story.

Elwaysux 10-27-2009 06:51 PM

Alleman played in 15 games with the Fins, he couldn't have been that beat up. He is only 3 years out of college. The only time he was listed on the injury report was for a shoulder. I'd put him in at RG for Goff and be done with it.

milkman 10-27-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6211096)
Harris is a far better guard that Niswanger.

And Richardson may be a better left tackle than Albert, which may require Albert to move inside to LG.

**** Waters. He's not the future, anyway.

Richardson has had years playing LT with the proper technique, and he's solid, but, while he may be better right now because he has that experience, Albert still has far more potential.

DaneMcCloud 10-27-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Elwaysux (Post 6213069)
Alleman played in 15 games with the Fins, he couldn't have been that beat up. He is only 3 years out of college. The only time he was listed on the injury report was for a shoulder. I'd put him in at RG for Goff and be done with it.

Except for fact that he couldn't practice on Tuesday following the Cowboys game because he had back spasms after only a few series.

Do any of you guys actually FOLLOW the Chiefs?

http://www.kffl.com/player/16316/nfl

Check out how many practices he's misses due to shoulder injuries and back spasms.

The guy can't stay healthy.

DaneMcCloud 10-27-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6213087)
Richardson has had years playing LT with the proper technique, and he's solid, but, while he may be better right now because he has that experience, Albert still has far more potential.

I'm with you. Albert has more potential.

Let's just hope he can live up to it.

milkman 10-27-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6211591)
Personally I'd like to try this....esp if they think Albert's weight and lack of strength is what's causing his sophomore slump so to speak.

LT Richardson
LG Albert
OC Smith
RG Waters
RT whatever sacraficial goat you wanna put out there.

So you want to move a guy who's struggling because of weight loss to guard?

ROFL

milkman 10-27-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6212974)
I think Albert will get better as the year goes on. He got away with a lot of poor technique last year due to being a spread offense and especially because he played at a higher weight. At least we know he has the athleticism--he just needs to work on limiting the mistakes and working on consistent technique.

Smith can at least play average, whereas Niswanger is garbage at Center.

Alleman isn't a great guard, but he's a huge upgrade over Goff who is an abortion on almost every single play.

This o-line isn't going to be great. But I think it can be upgraded to serviceable if only Haley had the guts to put the right 5 on the field. I don't get it. Smith outplayed Niswanger on Sunday by miles. And Goff has been ****ing up all season long. I just don't get why it's taken him so long to make a move.

The interesting thing in watching Albert's attempt to learn technique is he's actually showing just how athletic he is while struggling.

He's setting up with his feet too wide, and most guys can't keep their bodies up to get their hands on the defender when they do that.

Albert, however is getting his body too high.

That is incredibly difficult.

boogblaster 10-27-2009 07:10 PM

Noswagger is where he's needed ..... soakin' joints in a hot-tub ....


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