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SAUTO 10-28-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215339)
Talking out of your ass, yet again.

Please direct me to the part of any of my posts where I said they were worthless.

If you're so ignorant to think that performance in practice and TC is a more accurate barometer to future performance than performance in a real, regular season game, then we have nothing more to discuss.

Your whole outlook on this subject seems to have more to do with opposing Clayton than actually thinking rationally on your own.

yet EVERY team in the nfl uses TC to judge players. thats how they determine who makes the roster right?

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215226)
If he's going to make a personal claim, he should be able to back it up.

I'd like to know when I've made a comment about a player not getting playing time because he sucks.

He's not going to back it up because he can't.

He's just another in a long line of mother****ing pricks around here that like to spew a bunch of ****ing bullshit without an ounce of fact behind it.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215231)
IDK? mind bottling to me. some here just want to bitch. like haley and herm just WANT good players to sit on the bench. People also bash haley and pioli for SUPPOSEDLY hating herms guys. Morgan DIDNT PLAY WHEN HERM WAS HERE. and herm drafted him. Also herm showed he wasnt scared to play rookies if they show that they deserved it. Obviously morgan hasnt shown it to two coaching staffs and two front offices to date

JFC, Jason. He a second year player that came out as a junior. He was injured most of last year but not put in IR. He hardly had a chance to "show" anything.

The guy has more upside than any safety on this roster.

Whether he realizes his potential is any discussion altogether but to this point, he hasn't gotten much playing time for who know what ****ing reason.

He should be starting until he proves he can't play.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215429)
#1 Herm never was scared to play a rookie if he was better than what was ahead of him
#2 one word Mcgraw. he sat behind john mcgraw, and we all thought it was because herm loved him, BUT the same is happening this year. WHY? maybe morgan just doesnt "GET IT"
#2

#1. Read what I wrote. They were happy with the play of Page. And they weren't ready to give up on a 2nd round pick.

#2. In your opinion, could Morgan play any worse than what Brown and McGraw have shown?

He's not going to "get it" by sitting on the bench.

milkman 10-28-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6215274)
LT BRich
LG Albert
C Smith
RG Waters
RT Sacraficial Goat

Another patented CoMoChief fail.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215430)
yet EVERY team in the nfl uses TC to judge players. thats how they determine who makes the roster right?

What does that have to do with this statement?

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If you're so ignorant to think that performance in practice and TC is a more accurate barometer to future performance than performance in a real, regular season game, then we have nothing more to discuss.
Its commonly said that the coaches know who 45+ of the 53 players are that will make the final roster.

Playing in actual games is a MORE accurate barometer as to determining a players ability - as I said.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215434)
JFC, Jason. He a second year player that came out as a junior. He was injured most of last year but not put in IR. He hardly had a chance to "show" anything.

The guy has more upside than any safety on this roster.

Whether he realizes his potential is any discussion altogether but to this point, he hasn't gotten much playing time for who know what ****ing reason.

He should be starting until he proves he can't play.

Agreed. I have no idea why he's arguing, considering he agrees as well.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215241)
honestly i would like to see him play and find out what we have also.


SAUTO 10-28-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215436)
#1. Read what I wrote. They were happy with the play of Page. And they weren't ready to give up on a 2nd round pick.

#2. In your opinion, could Morgan play any worse than what Brown and McGraw have shown?

He's not going to "get it" by sitting on the bench.

as to #1 why did they draft him then? and why did they use mcgraw instead?

#2 was about last year. morgan played behind mcgraw last year and then this year, WHY? two front offices and HCs have had the chance to play him and he hasnt gotten playing time. i ask YOU why? i mean through two entirely different regimes and the same thing happens, iMO speaks to the player

SAUTO 10-28-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215453)
Agreed. I have no idea why he's arguing, considering he agrees as well.

i would like to see him play, but if he's not then SURELY theres a reason. thats my point

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215454)
as to #1 why did they draft him then? and why did they use mcgraw instead?

#2 was about last year. morgan played behind mcgraw last year and then this year, WHY? two front offices and HCs have had the chance to play him and he hasnt gotten playing time. i ask YOU why? i mean through two entirely different regimes and the same thing happens, iMO speaks to the player

I JUST told you: He was injured most of last year AND he was a junior.

The Chiefs invested a third round pick in the guy. A third rounder should make an impact by his third season. This is his second and arguably, his first.

Regardless, he SHOULD be on the field. This is a 1-6 and likely 2-14 football team.

Play the mother****er!

SAUTO 10-28-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215434)
JFC, Jason. He a second year player that came out as a junior. He was injured most of last year but not put in IR. He hardly had a chance to "show" anything.

The guy has more upside than any safety on this roster.

Whether he realizes his potential is any discussion altogether but to this point, he hasn't gotten much playing time for who know what ****ing reason.

He should be starting until he proves he can't play.


what injury did he have? who's to say he has more upside? and upside only takes you so far. it may never be realized and if the guy is not doing the right things in practice or TC then maybe thats why he's not playing.

SAUTO 10-28-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215463)
I JUST told you: He was injured most of last year AND he was a junior.

The Chiefs invested a third round pick in the guy. A third rounder should make an impact by his third season. This is his second and arguably, his first.

Regardless, he SHOULD be on the field. This is a 1-6 and likely 2-14 football team.

Play the mother****er!

dane i dont think being a junior had ANYTHING to do with it. i think he should get a shot, BUT i'm not arrogant to think that me thinking it means it should happen. None of us are there to see how the guy practices he could run the wrong way on every play for all we know...

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215458)
i would like to see him play, but if he's not then SURELY theres a reason. thats my point

Yeah, the point is that Todd Haley is clueless.

Why are Goof and Niswanger on the field? Why have Lance Long and Bobby Wade seen more playing time than Mark Bradley? Why has Dwayne Bowe only caught 23 balls in 7 games, making on pace for 52 on the year when he had 86 last year? Why has DeMorrio Williams been starting in place of Derrick Johnson?

Why, why, why, why, why?

There are SO questions to ask about the personnel decisions being made about this team that getting upset about Morgan is about 10th on the list of personnel decisions to be upset about.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215458)
i would like to see him play, but if he's not then SURELY theres a reason. thats my point

Could it be the same reason a more talented Derrick Johnson is riding the bench?

Could it be the same reason a more talented Mark Bradley is riding the bench?

Could it be the same reason a more talented Jamaal Charles had been riding the bench?

Wade Smith prior to an injury that forced him into the lineup, at a different position?

Maybe Haley should worry more about getting talented players on the field and worry less about petty grudges and putting players in his doghouse.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6215470)
dane i dont think being a junior had ANYTHING to do with it. i think he should get a shot, BUT i'm not arrogant to think that me thinking it means it should happen. None of us are there to see how the guy practices he could run the wrong way on every play for all we know...

Well, I know more. I know his coach from NC State. He's now a D-coordinator at another NCAA D-I school. He offered me Morgan's number last year in an effort to cheer him up because he was injured and not playing.

I'm assuming that you've played sports before. Haven't you ever witnessed coaches playing less talented guys before? Playing favorites? Who the **** KNOWS why Morgan is sitting.

Only Haley and his band of merry men.


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