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The Bad Guy 11-16-2009 06:04 PM

If you think we can build around Mays and DeMorrio, then I don't think you are qualified to even comment on Pee Wee football.

chiefzilla1501 11-16-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6268221)
If you think we can build around Mays and DeMorrio, then I don't think you are qualified to even comment on Pee Wee football.

The way I worded that was misleading.

I'm obviously not in support of building around Mays and Demorrio as if they were the centerpiece of the defense.

What I'm saying is that I would build with the OLBs, NTs, and Safeties as Centerpieces first, then worry about the ILBs later. I meant more from a "they aren't good, but we can work around them for now" standpoint.

The Franchise 11-16-2009 06:10 PM

You can grab Dan Williams in the 4th-5th round to play NT.

Mr. Laz 11-16-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6267217)
Not slamming you, but where, in your opinion, do you think that next win is?

first ... i never said we would win another one.

secondly, we have a legitimate chance at winning Denver,Buffalo and Cleveland all at home.


Denver is having a rough time ... Buffalo and Cleveland aren't very good either.

milkman 11-16-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6268170)
I can not speak for Milkman, but for me, this draft should be all about defense early as it is a strong defensive draft. Then O-line like a big dog later. Add the receiver next year when there could be some very good WR's available.

I agree that we do need to go strong in this draft on D.

However, I think we have to look at who's available when we pick.

I still want Berry/Mays in the first, Selvie/Hughes with the first of our two seconds, and if Kris O'Dowd is there with the Atlanta pick, I just don't think we should pass on him.

In the third, I'd look at Mardy Gilyard, who I think brings the same things to the table as Shiply, but at that spot is a better value.

But at the same time, if Jason Fox is there, I couldn't justify passing him to take Gilyard, who I like a lot.

In the fourth, Dan Williams.

milkman 11-16-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6268239)
You can grab Dan Williams in the 4th-5th round to play NT.

It appears we are on much the same page.

Bunit 11-16-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 6266768)
Better than the 20th we picked every year in the 90's I suppose.

Hell no. It's just a big contract to a unknown commodity.

ChiefsCountry 11-17-2009 12:33 AM

First off why the **** does any of us care what the draft picks are paid. None of us is Clark Hunt so it don't matter. That being said if you are the top of the draft grap the elite talent, you need it to win in the NFL. 2 or 3 years in the top 5 isn't a bad thing if you hit on them.

chiefzilla1501 11-17-2009 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6268993)
First off why the **** does any of us care what the draft picks are paid. None of us is Clark Hunt so it don't matter. That being said if you are the top of the draft grap the elite talent, you need it to win in the NFL. 2 or 3 years in the top 5 isn't a bad thing if you hit on them.

The one big way it does affect you is that it takes away all trade value. I'm happy that Dorsey worked out for us, but he would've also been much easier to trade if he had a much more manageable cap dollar in a year where where, in a 3-4, he wasn't nearly as valuable as he was in a 4-3.

Coogs 11-17-2009 09:28 AM

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

Our selections as of this week would be...

5th in Round 1

6th in Round 2
18th in Round 2 from Atlanta

5th in Round 3

6th in Round 4

5th in Round 5
11th in Round 5 from Carolina
15th in Round 5 from Miami

KChiefs1 11-17-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6269293)
http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

Our selections as of this week would be...

5th in Round 1

6th in Round 2
18th in Round 2 from Atlanta

5th in Round 3

6th in Round 4

5th in Round 5
11th in Round 5 from Carolina
15th in Round 5 from Miami

3 in the top 50 & 5 in the top 100.

The Franchise 11-17-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6268558)
I agree that we do need to go strong in this draft on D.

However, I think we have to look at who's available when we pick.

I still want Berry/Mays in the first, Selvie/Hughes with the first of our two seconds, and if Kris O'Dowd is there with the Atlanta pick, I just don't think we should pass on him.

In the third, I'd look at Mardy Gilyard, who I think brings the same things to the table as Shiply, but at that spot is a better value.

But at the same time, if Jason Fox is there, I couldn't justify passing him to take Gilyard, who I like a lot.

In the fourth, Dan Williams.

I would be happy with....

1. Eric Berry - S
2. Jerry Hughes - OLB
2. Kris O'Dowd - OC
3. Jason Fox - OT
4. Dan Williams, NT

It honestly would be a toss-up in the 3rd if Fox and Gilyard are there. They both would be pretty much immediate starters on this team. Fox at RT and Gilyard as the slot receiver and punt/kick returner. You can't go wrong with either one.

milkman 11-17-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6269423)
I would be happy with....

1. Eric Berry - S
2. Jerry Hughes - OLB
2. Kris O'Dowd - OC
3. Jason Fox - OT
4. Dan Williams, NT

It honestly would be a toss-up in the 3rd if Fox and Gilyard are there. They both would be pretty much immediate starters on this team. Fox at RT and Gilyard as the slot receiver and punt/kick returner. You can't go wrong with either one.

As I said in an earlier post, we appear to be on much the same page.

If Fox is there in the third, looking ahead to the '11 draft (assuming there is one), I'd take him over Gilyard with the top notch WR talent coming out in '11.

The Franchise 11-17-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6269440)
As I said in an earlier post, we appear to be on much the same page.

If Fox is there in the third, looking ahead to the '11 draft (assuming there is one), I'd take him over Gilyard with the top notch WR talent coming out in '11.

True....especially if we have a shot at grabbing Golden Tate. That kid is a playmaker....and I'm not just saying that because I'm an Irish homer.

milkman 11-17-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6269449)
True....especially if we have a shot at grabbing Golden Tate. That kid is a playmaker....and I'm not just saying that because I'm an Irish homer.

Oh shit, I knew I didn't like you.

:p


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