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Ralphy Boy 12-30-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6391586)
Glenn Dorsey is not Charles Rogers and Tyson Jackson is not Mike Williams. These players can work in this system. That argument doesn't hold an ounce of water.

It was more a reference to our continual drafting of defensive lineman.

I don't doubt that they can work in our system, I think a lot of Dorsey and always have. Not a fan of TJ but I could be wrong and I'll be the first to admit it if I am. At best I expect TJ to be an average player here. He wasn't worth the #3 pick thru no fault of his own, but he now must live up to that pick. I don't think he can but I know that Suh can and I don't think you pass on a player of his caliber because you have a mediocre player already filling the position. TJ's first year stats DO NOT compare favorably to those of any good 5 tech.

For the record I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Suh and trading him or keeping him and trading TJ. If TJ has done such a bang up job then maybe BB would be willing to give us his 2010 1st rounder. :rolleyes:

Micjones 12-30-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6391713)
But anywho....say we did draft Suh, would you be opposed to trading our two second rnd picks to move up and draft Mays?

Because if we could land Suh AND a top safety talent, well, that changes shit.

Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

Bane 12-30-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6391720)
I think if they're both on the board we'll get at least a couple phone calls.
I wouldn't trade out of the Top 5 though.

Could happen.I know I was hoping it would last year but :banghead:

tyton75 12-30-2009 12:26 PM

You take Suh and thank Satan he fell to you

ToxSocks 12-30-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6391727)
Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

But isn't Mays suppose to be a 15-25 guy? Not a top ten?

El Jefe 12-30-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6391727)
Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

Nah, I don't see Mays going in the top ten.

Mr. Laz 12-30-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6391727)
Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

mays is not likely to go in top half of the 1st round ... why would we need to go up to the top 10.

imo Mays isn't even worth a 1st round pick

he's probably gonna end up moving to linebacker ala urlacher and will be a project of sorts.

Quesadilla Joe 12-30-2009 01:32 PM

You draft Suh because he makes everyone around him better.

From a former Ravens and Browns scout:

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Suh can play NT, shade, 3 tech, 5 tech or whatever else you would like him to play... he can dominate at any spot, any scheme
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/5939543225

mlyonsd 12-30-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6391534)
do we really want more cornholers at arrowhead???





:fire:

Heh. I bet Hunt and Payoli don't care who they are.

Titty Meat 12-30-2009 02:17 PM

Lets win the Holiday Bowl before we discuss drafting Suh

Mecca 12-30-2009 02:20 PM

The Chiefs 3-4 is nothing like the Dallas 3-4, the Chiefs are trying to build that boring NE 3-4 where big fat guys play up front and stop the run and the LB's only blitz sometimes.

The NE style of 3-4 is nothing like the Pittsburgh style or the Dallas style. And for the style this team seems to want to play, which is the boring one I might add, Suh has no spot unless you want 3 top 5 picks to rotate in 2 spots.

Mecca 12-30-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6391995)
mays is not likely to go in top half of the 1st round ... why would we need to go up to the top 10.

imo Mays isn't even worth a 1st round pick

he's probably gonna end up moving to linebacker ala urlacher and will be a project of sorts.

:facepalm:

DeezNutz 12-30-2009 02:22 PM

For shits and grins:

If Pioli were willing to return to the 43, would you draft Suh?

Or, are you still in favor of Berry, Clausen, etc?

Mecca 12-30-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6392225)
For shits and grins:

If Pioli were willing to return to the 43, would you draft Suh?

Or, are you still in favor of Berry, Clausen, etc?

If we played 4-3 we'd still be hosed because Jackson could only play end in obvious run downs and Hali could only play in obvious pass downs otherwise we'd have 1 side that couldn't stop the run and 1 side that couldn't get a pass rush. And Hali with his hand on the ground against a LT isn't all that hot to begin with.

Bane 12-30-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6392225)
For shits and grins:

If Pioli were willing to return to the 43, would you draft Suh?

Or, are you still in favor of Berry, Clausen, etc?

For shits and grins 2,if Suh goes 1,berry goes 2,do you pass on Clausen @ 3?


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