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DrRyan 01-08-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6424892)
Yes. And can you prove me other-wise?

I am not the one here citing the made up stat. How about you cite your source good sir. There is NO WAY for you or anyone to know how many times he audibled this year.

Hootie 01-08-2010 05:42 PM

you can't pick Chris Johnson with a straight face...only reason they started winning was because of Vince Young...he made Chris Johnson THAT much more potent when the ends had to start respecting Vince Young's legs as well.

Buck 01-08-2010 05:42 PM

Rivers didn't even make the ballot? Damn.

Rivers led the league in Yards per Attempt, 1st Down %, and 20+ Yard Passes.

He didn't have nearly as many attempts as all the other candidates, otherwise I think he would have won it this year.

He was 18th in Attempts.

Schaub 1st
Manning 2nd
Brady 3rd
Rodgers 6th
Favre 8th
Brees 10th

Halfcan 01-08-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6424825)
He was not better than Drew Brees. Yet nobody is talking about him.

I think drew had it wrapped up til the last 3 games-All losses. Brett came from behind by playing well. The last 6 quarters of play 6 TD's over 500 yards.

last 6 for mangina Zip

last 6 for breeze Zip

Rivers sat the last game too so that might have hurt his chances-but SD had a hell of a year-they man handled people. Hate to say it-but I might have been wrong about Rivers-he had a fantastic year.

Halfcan 01-08-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6424902)
Rivers didn't even make the ballot? Damn.

Rivers led the league in Yards per Attempt, 1st Down %, and 20+ Yard Passes.

He didn't have nearly as many attempts as all the other candidates, otherwise I think he would have won it this year.

He was 18th in Attempts.

Schaub 1st
Manning 2nd
Brady 3rd
Rodgers 6th
Favre 8th
Brees 10th

Yep not sure why he is not getting talked about-but damm he played good. :clap:

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2010 05:44 PM

Manning or Rivers.

Christ, the Vikings made the playoffs with Tarvaris Jackson at QB last year. Missing Favre means they don't get a bye week.

The Colts missing Manning means they likely don't make the playoffs, and I don't see the Chargers making the playoffs without Rivers, either.

Halfcan 01-08-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6424901)
you can't pick Chris Johnson with a straight face...only reason they started winning was because of Vince Young...he made Chris Johnson THAT much more potent when the ends had to start respecting Vince Young's legs as well.

But damm look at the numbers-record breaking season.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6424901)
you can't pick Chris Johnson with a straight face...only reason they started winning was because of Vince Young...he made Chris Johnson THAT much more potent when the ends had to start respecting Vince Young's legs as well.

That's why the award is stupid to begin with.

MVP is always going to be a QB, because they play the most important position on the field.

This is what, the 6th time a RB has broken 2000 yards, and he'll probably finish 4th in the voting.

Halfcan 01-08-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw (Post 6424895)
Most valuable player to his team = Peyton Manning, easy call.

But he sat the last two games and threw 3 Ints in 2 seperate games. 16 picks this year!! some of them lame ducks just floating away.

I dont think mangina deserves it.

KCrockaholic 01-08-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6424898)
I am not the one here citing the made up stat. How about you cite your source good sir. There is NO WAY for you or anyone to know how many times he audibled this year.

Favre stated in an interview in week 15 that he has only audibled 10 times the entire season. I am saying 15 audibles were made over the entire season. I watched the Vikes this entire season. When it looks like he's audibling he is just pointing out pass protections, whos the blitzing corner, and directing receivers on how far to bend their routes. He did not change an entire play more than 15 times this season. Besides this... Favre has been in the NFL for nearly 20 years. If he feels that he needs to audible, it is probably the correct call.

Halfcan 01-08-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6424916)
That's why the award is stupid to begin with.

MVP is always going to be a QB, because they play the most important position on the field.

This is what, the 6th time a RB has broken 2000 yards, and he'll probably finish 4th in the voting.

I agree-johnson had statistically the best year of a RB ever-all purpose yards that is. But the titans missing the playoffs will probably hurt his chances too.

Buck 01-08-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6424916)
That's why the award is stupid to begin with.

MVP is always going to be a QB, because they play the most important position on the field.

This is what, the 6th time a RB has broken 2000 yards, and he'll probably finish 4th in the voting.

Unless a RB scores 28+ TDs in a season, then they win the MVP, see 2005 - 2006.

Hootie 01-08-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6424916)
That's why the award is stupid to begin with.

MVP is always going to be a QB, because they play the most important position on the field.

This is what, the 6th time a RB has broken 2000 yards, and he'll probably finish 4th in the voting.

that is why he can have fun with his offensive player of the year award...

if the Titans finished 14-2 or at least made the playoffs MAYBE he would have an argument...

keg in kc 01-08-2010 05:49 PM

Farve would have won it if he hadn't blown the entire month of December (1-3 record, 4 TD, 4 (of his 7 total) INT).

Brees' numbers are comparable to Favre's (actually better than), but they of course collapsed late in the year, as well. And he's nowhere near as high profile.

Indy's last two games don't help Manning, either, obviously, but he probably gets it.

But the media LOVES Favre, so it wouldn't shock me.

Chris Johnson isn't getting it, not on an 8-8 team, 2k yards or no 2k yards.

Ditto for Schaub on a 9-7 squad.

Halfcan 01-08-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6424926)
that is why he can have fun with his offensive player of the year award...

if the Titans finished 14-2 or at least made the playoffs MAYBE he would have an argument...

exactly ;)

He had a hell of a year though.


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