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Titty Meat 03-01-2010 02:23 AM

I bet Odrick goes higher and Pittsburgh either drafts a guy like the kid from Idaho or draft a guy like Thomas to play CB.

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 02:23 AM

Looks solid Mecca. I think Houston will have a chance to go a lot higher depending upon what Detroit or Tampa Bay do in the first. I think either team is seriously considering taking Okung and them grabbing a guy like Houston or Odrick or the like at the top of the second or a guy like Alualu, Jones or Neal in the third. Pretty good draft for 4-3 defensive tackles.

I also think Gronkowski cost himself some money by deciding to not participate in drills at the combine even though he was cleared medically. Pitta tore it up, especially in the all-important agility drills, and most of the tight end class looked really good. I don't know if he's second round material at this point.

I don't agree with you on JPP. I know he's got the natural athletic ability, but he really didn't show enough on the field to warrant a first round selection. I think teams are going to look at him like they did with Michael Johnson in last years draft. All the potential, crazy length, but didn't do much with it at the college level. I think his lack of experience will be factored in as well.

I'd agree with you that Mathews has to be a heavy consideration for the Chargers in the first round. He had a monster career at San Diego and is built like and has the same skill set as Tomlinson. With the Chargers willing to let Sproles test free agency, they might be looking for an all-purpose back versus a bigger guy like Dwyer. Mathews could be plugged into their offense immediately and produce.

Ballsy reach for Dan Williams. Their secondary was atrocious and I can't see them going for Williams if Berry or Haden were available, but it's plausible.

Mecca 03-01-2010 02:24 AM

I'd rather they not draft him but that's where I'm putting it right now.

Titty Meat 03-01-2010 02:25 AM

Anyway Gilyards stock slips a little? He's not very big and ran a pretty slow 40.

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6566632)
Mecca I will bet you casino cash the Chiefs won't draft Okung.

The only way the Chiefs don't draft Okung is if he's already been picked, which is a distinct possibility considering the state of the Lions and Bucs offensive lines. Detroit doesn't want Stafford to see the IR again. Ever. And the Bucs offensive line is so bad that people in Kansas City think they have a bad line.

Mecca 03-01-2010 02:26 AM

You have to know these teams, the Steelers actually like their line and used a relatively high pick on Urbik last year and when is the last time they used a high pick on a CB?

Oh yea never.

Also I'm giving Gronkowski an edge because of his arm length and blocking upside, Pita's arm length all but assures he'll never be a full time TE, maybe a flex type.

Titty Meat 03-01-2010 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6566640)
You have to know these teams, the Steelers actually like their line and used a relatively high pick on Urbik last year and when is the last time they used a high pick on a CB?

Oh yea never.

Also I'm giving Gronkowski an edge because of his arm length and blocking upside, Pita's arm length all but assures he'll never be a full time TE, maybe a flex type.

How many picks did there secondary have last year? Thomas is a great pick because not only can he play corner he's a damn good safety. Why would the Steelers draft Mays when they have Polamalu and Clark?

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6566637)
Anyway Gilyards stock slips a little? He's not very big and ran a pretty slow 40.

Slow, not very big and his numbers came from a pure spread system in a weaker conference. Not a good sign for Gilyard. Teams will look at the Florida game and see where Haden absolutely dominated him one on one. I mean, what Haden did to Gilyard in that game was brutal.

Mecca 03-01-2010 02:32 AM

Because Ryan Clark is kinda shitty and has a tendency to get injured and is at the end of his contract and the Steelers rarely resign players, especially ones like him.

Mays is also a perfect compliment to Polamalu.

I don't think Thomas is a safety at the NFL level honestly, he isn't a good fit for the Steelers, he doesn't defend the run, he's a finesse guy he'd be a CB on that team.

Titty Meat 03-01-2010 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6566646)
Because Ryan Clark is kinda shitty and has a tendency to get injured and is at the end of his contract and the Steelers rarely resign players, especially ones like him.

Mays is also a perfect compliment to Polamalu.

I don't think Thomas is a safety at the NFL level honestly, he isn't a good fit for the Steelers, he doesn't defend the run, he's a finesse guy he'd be a CB on that team.

Hmm well they did draft 2 CB's last year. I would still be willing to bet they draf Iupatai. I looked on the Steelers message board it seems split between Mays and Anthony Davis.

Mecca 03-01-2010 02:36 AM

I don't see them taking Iupati, Kemwhatever isn't very old and they just took Urbik with a 3rd rounder, the Steelers actually plan for those guys to play.

I think they will take a center in the 2nd or 3rd with Hartings age but Mays is to good of a value to pass up and he is a fit for what they do.

Titty Meat 03-01-2010 02:40 AM

It's interesting you have JD Walton being picked in round 2 I thought he was a 4th round pick. Did his draft stock go up? Anyway it's cool that you did this write up it must have taken forever. You going to make another mock before the draft?

Mecca 03-01-2010 02:41 AM

I might, things will likely change...

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6566640)
You have to know these teams, the Steelers actually like their line and used a relatively high pick on Urbik last year and when is the last time they used a high pick on a CB?

Oh yea never.

Also I'm giving Gronkowski an edge because of his arm length and blocking upside, Pita's arm length all but assures he'll never be a full time TE, maybe a flex type.

I'm going to disagree with you on Pitta. The 3/4" that he's short on his arm length (33" being the "standard") isn't going to hurt him as he has a long torso and has the intangibles and instincts in the receiving game to make up for the minimal physical shortcoming.

I just think that Gronkowski's injury history and his unwillingness to participate in the combine is going to hurt him, especially in this incredibly deep and talented tight end class. Everyone talks about the depth of safeties, but this TE class is insane. I'm so glad we traded a pick away for O'Connell last year and Carl thought that taking Cottam in the third was a good idea.

Micjones 03-01-2010 05:04 AM

Swap Okung out for Berry...
And that's one hell of a way to start the draft for this team.

Berry, Cody and Spikes?
Sign me the **** up...


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