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Chiefs=Champions 03-02-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6571707)
For the most part he does but he was never in this position either where he has a QB who was his big move looking like he shit himself.

Good point. God, if we draft Okung its going to be a long time untill we recover from this draft.....

Mecca 03-02-2010 10:59 PM

Prepare yourself for the worst is all I can tell you, Pioli is a guy who values linemen specifically defensive linemen over everything.

What playmaker did NE ever draft?

Jerm 03-02-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6571712)
Prepare yourself for the worst is all I can tell you

After last year, I'm prepped and ready for it. ROFL

Mecca 03-02-2010 11:16 PM

Myron Rolle ran a 4.69, I don't care if he's the smartest man on the planet, that's way to slow.

BossChief 03-02-2010 11:21 PM

That defense in NE has sustained a high ranking because of the investment early on in the DL.

Shit that defense won championships without pass rushers because they had a DL that could take over games. Hopefully, we have exactly that once we add a true NT into the mix and get us some backers.

BossChief 03-02-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6571725)
Myron Rolle ran a 4.69, I don't care if he's the smartest man on the planet, that's way to slow.

Its a slow track.

Is that time "official"?

I would like to hear what he runs on his proday and if we bring him in for a workout.

Mecca 03-02-2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6571737)
Its a slow track.

Is that time "official"?

I would like to hear what he runs on his proday and if we bring him in for a workout.

How about that he was also excessively stiff in all of the position drills?

People say Mays is stiff and doesn't change direction well, Rolle made him look godlike at it...

Mr. Laz 03-02-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 6571711)
Good point. God, if we draft Okung its going to be a long time untill we recover from this draft.....

over-dramatic much? :rolleyes:

KCrockaholic 03-02-2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6571746)
How about that he was also excessively stiff in all of the position drills?

People say Mays is stiff and doesn't change direction well, Rolle made him look godlike at it...

Rolle was bad also, but Mays has a problem with change of direction and when you play Safety, COD is a necessity on every single play. I like Mays, but today showed why he is not the top Safety. Not nearly as fluid as Berry or Thomas for that matter.

Mecca 03-02-2010 11:57 PM

He shouldn't be, Berry and Thomas are CB sized and probably could play CB, Mays isn't just like when you get that "he's not good in man" of course not look at the size of him.

Mays actually looked better today, he flipped his hips really well, the only thing that is a bit sketchy on him is his backpedal isn't very natural but playing safety that shouldn't be to much of an issue.

KCrockaholic 03-03-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6571787)
He shouldn't be, Berry and Thomas are CB sized and probably could play CB, Mays isn't just like when you get that "he's not good in man" of course not look at the size of him.

Mays actually looked better today, he flipped his hips really well, the only thing that is a bit sketchy on him is his backpedal isn't very natural but playing safety that shouldn't be to much of an issue.

He was very slow in his back pedal. His hips aren't perfect, but proper coaching should help I think. He needs to go to a predominantly zone defense. The fact that Berry and Thomas can play CB only raises their stock because it shows they are versatile, and Berry can actually play all 4 positions as a DB. He did it at Tennessee all the time. I think Pete Carroll falls in love with Mays though.

Mecca 03-03-2010 12:10 AM

Berry is a better prospect, Thomas is really kinda iffy, he's really small, might just be a CB, doesn't play the run very well.

Thomas has nice INT stats but the question becomes really is he just a CB?

KCrockaholic 03-03-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6571812)
Berry is a better prospect, Thomas is really kinda iffy, he's really small, might just be a CB, doesn't play the run very well.

Thomas has nice INT stats but the question becomes really is he just a CB?

Thomas can probably play either, but I won't be surprised if CB suits him better. I need to work on my mock....

Chiefs=Champions 03-03-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6571766)
over-dramatic much? :rolleyes:

reerun much? :shake:

Saccopoo 03-03-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 6571711)
Good point. God, if we draft Okung its going to be a long time untill we recover from this draft.....

Jesus...you people really don't have a clue do you? I understand that it's not a sexy pick, but it's an important one. And the Chiefs have neglected their offensive line for ten years in terms of the draft.

Do you want to know why the Chiefs suck so bad right now? It's because our offensive line is the absolute shits. Other than an old Walters and a young project, this line has no talent whatsoever.

In drafting Okung, you are getting the premier player in his draft class (which looks to be a pretty good class talent wise) at a premier position. Even if he sucks at left tackle, he can play at RT, RG or LG. It's a no brainer pick for a position of great need by the Chiefs. (Because if you don't think that the offensive line doesn't need upgrading then you are either one of two things: 1. Delusional, or 2. Stupid as ****.) What the hell is their to recover from in drafting the best, most highly regarded left tackle in a deep and talented draft?

I'd seriously like to know why you think that it's going to take a long time for the Chiefs to recover if they draft Okung? Seriously, I'd like to know why you think drafting the best left tackle in this draft is a negative thing for a team with an offensive line that's as bad as what the Chiefs put out last season.


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