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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
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I'm confused too.
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Obviously. And hate filled. What's the matter booby? Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
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Did the Jets draft a LT to replace the other first round LT they had already drafted two years prior? NO.
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So, you are happy to back the Carl Peterson/Al Grohl buddy pick of taking a guy who never played left tackle, but rather left guard and projecting that to the next level and think you are getting a future All-Pro? Okie dokie smokey! Or is it just that the guy was taken in the first round, so we never have to spend another first round pick on an offensive lineman as long as he's on the roster? Is that how you look at the roster from an evaluation perspective? That's awesome if you do. Then we don't need a defensive lineman or a linebacker by that logic, correct?
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No. They didn't already have a first round pick at LT. So what they did is actually nothing like what you are advocating. They have zero in common.
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By Jove! That's exactly what you are doing! You are evaluating talent on where they were picked in the draft versus what they are doing on the field. Awesome sauce!
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And in fact what New York did after drafting their first round LT is then, 3 years later, trade up to #5 to pick a QBOTF.
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Don't forget that they also drafted a CENTER in the first round - the same first round as when they drafted the LT. They drafted two offensive lineman in the first round - of the same draft!!!! So, is it okay for us to draft another offensive lineman in the first round because it was okay for the Jets to do that? So, theoretically, it would be okay to draft a right tackle or guard in this draft because they took two OL guys in the first round.
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We now have our second chance to do EXACTLY WHAT THE JETS DID: Draft a QB at #5 after having acquired a LT in a previous draft. And you're crying like a bitch about us wanting to do that.
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No, no. Crying like a bitch would be what you are doing. You are having a wittle bitty temper tantrum, calling me all sorts of names and cap yelling and such. Take a deep breath, hold it in, slowly let it out...it's going to be okay.
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You don't have the first god damn clue about what teams have done, or should do.
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Hmmm...I think I do. I think it's you that's having a problem with it.
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And how's that dumb secondary pick they made doing? What's his name....Revis?
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He's doing quite well. And why do you think that was a dumb pick? The guy is one of the best cornerbacks in the league. It really wasn't a dumb pick at all. It was like the Chiefs getting Brandon Flowers in the second round. That was also a very good pick.
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Yeah, they totally blew an opportunity to draft OL there, for a silly playmaker in the secondary. What were they thinking, Sack of Testes?
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I really don't think that they wanted an offensive lineman with that pick, considering that they took Ferguson and Mangold in the first round of the previous draft. That would have been silly. Especially since they signed as free agents two other offensive linemen who were also first round picks in Alan Faneca and Damien Woody. Imagine - a team with four offensive linemen who were first round picks. I thought that the general consensus was that you don't need first round picks on the offensive line to be a successful team, but yet, people are also suggesting we emulate the Jets as an organization and they DO have four first round picks on the offensive line. Weird.
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Holy shit they passed on Joe Staley and Ben Grubbs for a ****ing CB.
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I know it's hard to understand, but at that point, the Jets were solid on the offensive line, building through high picks in the draft and on regarded free agents. The core/trenches was built and that allowed them to then use first round selections on other positions. When they selected their potential quarterback of the future in Sanchez (even though they did use a second rounder a few scant years earlier on Kellen Clemons), he was afforded the ability to work behind an established, talented offensive line, which helped him acclimate to the demands and speed of the NFL substantially better than if he were to be placed behind a less talented offensive line. Imagine if Sanchez, as a rookie, had to start behind an offensive line that allowed, say, the second highest number of sacks in the league and was also near the top in penalties and pressures and hits? Wowszer! He'd not have been nearly as effective methinks.