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ToxSocks 04-08-2010 03:14 PM

I dont care what the stats are. I can see with my own eyes that he sucked. His accuracy was awful. Even when he had protection his accuracy was disgusting.

When he had protection, when he didn't have protection, when he had Bowe, when he didn't have bowe, when he had a running game and when he didnt have a running game, the results were the same; terrible, terrible accuracy.

No one can dispute that. And that's all that it boils down to. We can go back and forth all day long talking about variables that may have caused his production to differ in the second and first half of the season.

The one thing that remains constant is that his accuracy was garbage. Accuracy can be a difficult thing to fix. Most of the time, it doesn't get fixed at all. That's what is most bothersome about Cassel IMO.

Ima hope the guy does better. Im not rooting against him. But damn, he gave us nothing at all last year to lead us to believe that he is the answer at QB.

Mecca 04-08-2010 03:17 PM

This thread is quite reminiscent of right after the draft last year when Hootie who fully admits he knows nothing about college players, ruined every draft thread by sucking some Pioli cock.

Nightfyre 04-08-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6660997)
Break the season into quarters and it doesn't look so bad. Oh wait, yes it does. I'm talking about breaking the season into quarters, not each quarter of the game.
1st quarter (3) 59.6%, 5 TD/2 INT 89.8 QB rating
2nd quarter (4) 52.9%, 5 TD/3 INT 70.6 QB rating
3rd quarter (4) 50.8%, 3 TD/4 INT 63.1 QB rating
4th quarter (4) 57.6%, 3 TD/7 INT 64.7 QB rating.

Hey look at that, his completion % and QB rating got better from 3rd to 4th quarter. :rolleyes:

Reaching for hope? Cassel had a better completion % than Manning & Brady in 2009 on passes that were thrown over 40 yards, completing 42.9% while Brady had 21.4% and Manning had no passes completed over 40.

That is passes THROWN over 40, not that a receiver didn't catch a 15 yard slant and take it 40+.

Sad part? Cassel was 12% on passes from 21-30 yards. Manning was 34.4% and Brady 32%. :facepalm:

QB rating for Cassel by distance thrown:
Behind LOS 80.2
1-10 yards 76.2
11-20 58.9
21-30 7.9
31-40 105.4
41+ 89.9

Pretty sure that he has to be in the bottom of the league on 21-30 and right near the top in his 7 passes thrown 31-40 & on 7 thrown 41+.
Brees was 140.0 on 9 passes thrown 31-40 and 63.7 on 9 thrown 41+
Manning was 60.8 on 24 passes thrown 31-40 & 39.6 on 2 thrown 41+
Brady was 58.0 on 12 passes thrown 31-40 & 75.0 on 14 thrown 41+.

The question I pose is, would having a big target help improve those 21-30 yard passes?

Think about it a little further. The sample size for all the qbs is tiny. So he completed like 4 passes over 30 yards. Maybe we should analyze those plays before jumping to conclusions based on extrapolation of a tiny sample size. Chances are, it had little to do with cassel's capability and far more to do with circumstance. I'm sure gochiefs can accomodate posting these plays?
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Hootie 04-08-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6661084)
This thread is quite reminiscent of right after the draft last year when Hootie who fully admits he knows nothing about college players, ruined every draft thread by sucking some Pioli cock.

oh...

I thought it was ruined by you and Hamas entering every draft pick related thread and telling everyone how stupid Pioli was.

I guess we'll agree to disagree...

Ebolapox 04-08-2010 10:57 PM

I'd laugh.

redsurfer11 04-10-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 6660250)
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/07/will...ector-at-no-4/

Williams could be McNabb’s protector at No. 4
Posted: April 7th, 2010 | Mike Mayock

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about the effect the Donovan McNabb trade will have on the draft, and the more I think about it the more I believe the Redskins will be a factor in the NFC East. They have a veteran quarterback now and they’re going to draft a left tackle with pick No. 4. And keep in mind, they could have a choice between Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung and Oklahoma’s Trent Williams, the two top tackles in the entire draft.

If so, they could go with Williams, even though he is generally regarded as the No. 2 left tackle behind Okung. Williams fits Washington’s scheme better. He’s a little bit more athletic for the Redskins’ zone-blocking scheme. I think Williams makes more sense for the Redskins at pick No. 4.

The other McNabb effect is on the quarterback situation with Jimmy Clausen, whose pro day I will be at on Friday in South Bend. He had a shot at going to the Redskins before the McNabb trade, but not anymore. The medicals and how he is evaluated off the field will go a long way in determining if he is going to be a top-10 pick.


Trent Williams. Great. That was my pick at #5. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Sorry, I'm not on the Berry Bandwagon. He's a great player. But I feel he should be in the 8-13 range.

milkman 04-10-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redsurfer11 (Post 6665183)
Trent Williams. Great. That was my pick at #5. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Sorry, I'm not on the Berry Bandwagon. He's a great player. But I feel he should be in the 8-13 range.

Wow.

kcchiefsus 04-10-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6665217)
Wow.

Yeah, wow. He is not of the same mindset as all of the arrogant pricks on here who think they know everything. How dare he voice his opinion. Just wow. Wow.

Do you dumb pricks treat people like this in real life? Do you belittle people for saying things you don't agree with? Do you slap your wives/girlfriends around if they disagree with you? I sure hope for your guys' sake you aren't like this in real life because I can't imagine people wanting to associate themselves with arrogant pricks who act like their shit don't stink and who are so condescending to 95% of the members on this messageboard.

milkman 04-10-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 6665420)
Yeah, wow. He is not of the same mindset as all of the arrogant pricks on here who think they know everything. How dare he voice his opinion. Just wow. Wow.

Do you dumb pricks treat people like this in real life? Do you belittle people for saying things you don't agree with? Do you slap your wives/girlfriends around if they disagree with you? I sure hope for your guys' sake you aren't like this in real life because I can't imagine people wanting to associate themselves with arrogant pricks who act like their shit don't stink and who are so condescending to 95% of the members on this messageboard.

That's a lot of shit to read in that one word.

I didn't belittle him.

I expressed surprise at that opinion.

Dumbass.

Mecca 04-10-2010 09:20 PM

It's nice to see someone got some sand in the vag for saying something reeruned.

Sus if it bothers you that match you can go post on one of the homer boards where everything is all rainbows and unicorns.

cdcox 04-10-2010 09:26 PM

If I didn't like Cassel after his first 15 games (and I didn't) what in the hell did I see in his next 15 games that would make me yearn to see 8 more?

kcchiefsus 04-11-2010 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6665422)
That's a lot of shit to read in that one word.

I didn't belittle him.

I expressed surprise at that opinion.

Dumbass.

Believe me, it comes from more than seeing that one word. It comes from being on here for several years and seeing jackasses like you, Mecca, Dane, Hamas, Onthewarpath, etc. constantly belittle people for having opinions other than your own. Yeah, we know you "drafturbators" know more about the draft than the average fan and more than most people on here. Doesn't need you need to be assholes about it all of the time. If you don't want to see other opinions then you should either form your own messageboard or convince Chiefsplanet to make an ultra secret draftplanet just for you guys so you can post without having to read opposing viewpoints. God forbid anybody disagree's with the four horsemen and any other drafturbators on here.

milkman 04-11-2010 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 6665698)
Believe me, it comes from more than seeing that one word. It comes from being on here for several years and seeing jackasses like you, Mecca, Dane, Hamas, Onthewarpath, etc. constantly belittle people for having opinions other than your own. Yeah, we know you "drafturbators" know more about the draft than the average fan and more than most people on here. Doesn't need you need to be assholes about it all of the time. If you don't want to see other opinions then you should either form your own messageboard or convince Chiefsplanet to make an ultra secret draftplanet just for you guys so you can post without having to read opposing viewpoints. God forbid anybody disagree's with the four horsemen and any other drafturbators on here.

And since you've been on here for long enough to see jackasses like me, then you would know if I was going to be a jackass here, I would have come right out and been a jackass and belittled him for his opinion.

If your sensitive little vagina can't take critisism, then post somewhere else.

If you're a dumbass, we're going to let you know it.

If we hurt your poor little feelings, then tough shit, bitch.

notorious 04-11-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6661870)
oh...

I thought it was ruined by you and Hamas entering every draft pick related thread and telling everyone how stupid Pioli was.

I guess we'll agree to disagree...


I hate to say it, but has anything they said about the Chief's picks been proven wrong yet?

Chiefshrink 04-11-2010 10:18 AM

Pioli will have a real legitimate chance to actually trade down this yr unlike last yr. With a 75% chance of having Berry and Clausen fall to 5 and being able to "dangle the carrot" to such teams like Seattle,Cleveland and Buffalo...etc. I really see us still getting an impact player and getting more picks. We have so many needs across the board.

Yes I would love to have Berry and maybe who knows we swap with Seattle get an extra pick or two. They take Claussen and we still get Berry at 6:shrug:

Question I have for you here is this: Do you think when teams swap 1st rd picks who are in 1 or 2 spots of one another that they have a "Gentleman's agreement" as to who they want and 'only' swap with that in place; not that it guarantees anything of course. I have always wondered if that goes on:shrug: My guess is that it does 'only' if there is an already built relationship there and those 2 teams have totally 2 different needs.

Which leads me to this question: Do you think Pioli and Mangini like each other:D


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