Swap out the first three picks with Berry, Kindle and Lee, or Berry, Washington and Lee and I'd be happy with it as well.

They actually did move up in the 5th to get him. I was listening to an interview with Norv Turner yesterday and he said they actually thought about moving up to get him in the 4th.

1. Eric Berry
2. Jimmy Clausen
2. Golden Tate
3. Jon Asamoah
4. Bruce Campbell
5. Perrish Cox
5. Cam Thomas
5. Jamar Chaney

I'm not a draftnik, but are you referring to the Hughes who was taken in the late 1st by the Colts? If so, he's not available at 2a.

He said he wanted to use a 4th to trade up to get him. He just listed it as 2a.

reread my post...it's a trade scenario...

You are really ****ing stupid.

Sorry, missed that.

No worries. It happens.

ROFL

Well you got me there.... Rep!

Random note in a random thread -- Belichick mentioned in a radio interview today that two guys he took late in this year's draft (a 6 and a 7) were rated higher than late fourth round picks he made in the 2007 draft, "for example".

Clearly this draft was MUCH deeper than some prior drafts, and 2007 in particular, at least according to the Pats grading system.

That's why many of us have said that we need more than the normal "2.5" starters out of this draft.

Another random note -- BB also mentioned, in a different interview, that despite a few stars such as Ted Washington, Ricky Watters and (especially) Brett Favre, the 1991 draft was probably one of the weakest in NFL history.

http://football.about.com/od/nfldraf...raftresult.htm

So do the Patriots.

I'm pretty pleased with the Pats draft. Certainly having 5 picks in the first three rounds helps quite a bit. Flipping a late 3 into a 2, probably a mid-2, in 2011 was a nice bonus since we ended up drafting 12 players already and likely can't use them all regardless.

But I'm not a draftnik so I can't speak to teh specifics of the players we took. I just like the positions filled, the draft strategy, and the profiles I've read of the players we did take.

I think the Patriots did a very good job of addressing needs in this draft, even if I didn't necessarily agree with some of the players that they took.

I had them at one point for two straight years in the mock and added a punter both times. Mesko will really help you guys out in the field position game, which will be important.

The one thing I'm most critical of is Belichick's tunnel vision wrt: Florida players. I know that he has a close relationship with Meyer, but we've seen firsthand the dangers of a pro coach taking the advice of a college coach and selecting his players b/c of that close relationship.