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Just Passin' By 06-19-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6831690)
How about naming a QB whose every single deep ball is like that? I can name one for sure.

Now you're just full of shit.

Just Passin' By 06-19-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6831692)
Ignoring the oil spill, how would you rate the quality of the water in the Gulf?

Given that they are still swimming at the beaches, I'd say it's fine.

milkman 06-19-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6831691)
Given that my question was about the first half of the season, yes it is irrelevant.

Yeah, because you can not simply cherry pick how you want to evaluate his play.

He sucked in the first half of the season.

He sucked in the second half, and the play around him in the first half doesn't give him a pass.

DeezNutz 06-19-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6831694)
Given that they are still swimming at the beaches, I'd say it's fine.

Ok.

Given that Tyler Thigpen--yeah, that Tyler Thigpen--posted better stats in 4 less starts, I'd say the talent was fine.

milkman 06-19-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6831693)
Now you're just full of shit.

Embellishing slightly, maybe.

But there isn't another QB whose deep ball is or that has been consistently as bad as Cassel's.

orange 06-19-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6831669)
90 percent of NFL players absolutely dominated on the high school level, and played for major universities at the college level.

And then there's Cassel.

DeezNutz 06-19-2010 11:23 AM

This is a pointless exchange.

Fact: Cassel played like shit in '09.
Fact: He is going to get another chance in '10, and he must play better. No excuses.

orange 06-19-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6831675)

I'm sorry but putting hair on Pioli just destroys all identification.

Just Passin' By 06-19-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6831695)
Yeah, because you can not simply cherry pick how you want to evaluate his play.

He sucked in the first half of the season.

He sucked in the second half, and the play around him in the first half doesn't give him a pass.

The team around him sucked in the first half. Cassel was hitting players on the numbers and they were dropping the ball. Cassel was running for his life on almost every pass. The running game was 3 feet and a cloud of dust.

It should come as no surprise to anyone with a brain that such a situation would impact the QB and lead to bad habits which will have to be undone. Then again, expecting some of you to use your brains is clearly asking too much.

It's one thing to criticize the player. It's another thing to ignore everything that was going on around him in your haste to bash the guy.

Brock 06-19-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6831693)
Now you're just full of shit.

I'm exaggerating, but not very much. His deep ball sucks. It's inarguable.

milkman 06-19-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6831704)
The team around him sucked in the first half. Cassel was hitting players on the numbers and they were dropping the ball. Cassel was running for his life on almost every pass. The running game was 3 feet and a cloud of dust.

It should come as no surprise to anyone with a brain that such a situation would impact the QB and lead to bad habits which will have to be undone. Then again, expecting some of you to use your brains is clearly asking too much.

It's one thing to criticize the player. It's another thing to ignore everything that was going on around him in your haste to bash the guy.

Even in the first half of the season before the play improved, he left the pocket well before he had too in many of those situations that you refer to as "running for his life", a problem that I bitched about again and again as the season progressed from week one, and sonething that I noted he did when I watched replays of the Patriot games on NFLN from '08.

And he rarely it his receivers in teh numbers.

You're a ****ing idiot to suggest that was the case.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-19-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6831595)
Hasn't that been the general consensus anyway? Surround him with 8 pro bowlers and he'll be a good QB....ROFL:shake:

Yes, it's the necessary key to insure a hard-fought loss in rounds 1 or 2.

Consistently. :facepalm:


Snakebit FTW!

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-19-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6831675)

And there it was; the cold, hard Truth.:shake:

Bane 06-19-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6831726)
Yes, it's the necessary key to insure a hard-fought loss in rounds 1 or 2.

Consistently. :facepalm:


Snakebit FTW!

ROFL

Just Passin' By 06-19-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6831714)
Even in the first half of the season before the play improved, he left the pocket well before he had too in many of those situations that you refer to as "running for his life", a problem that I bitched about again and again as the season progressed from week one, and sonething that I noted he did when I watched replays of the Patriot games on NFLN from '08.

And he rarely it his receivers in teh numbers.

You're a ****ing idiot to suggest that was the case.

Of course, you ignore the reality that scrambling is part of what scrambling QBs do, that there was generally no pocket to stay in, and the impact that the 10 players who were not playing at decent NFL level around him would have upon him game after game.

So your analysis is worthless, but you got to crack out another insult to someone who got it more accurately than you did. 50/50 post for you. Congrats!


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