Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6962251)

The lineman failed to engage the opposing lineman, thus allowing the defender to get his hands in the air. No further explanation is needed.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 6962435)

Yes, absolutely no need to explain why a QB who throws nowhere but the flat with any accuracy turned a ****ING flea flicker into a checkdown pass after wandering back up into the pocket, for no more reason than it seemed the easiest place to which to mosey.

Why don't we go full reerun and have those RB receiving passes in the flat run right back to the middle of the field to be tackled by a DLman?

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6962479)

maybe some here should watch the replay, the long reciever was COVERED from what i saw on the flea flicker.
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6960874)

I am not going to accect a ****ing thing. Cassel sucks ass, and Pioli made a terrible error in judgement trading for him.

The only way we as fans should cut Cassel any slack is if he starts producing. If that happens, you will see a large amount of the pissing and moaning subside.

If we just accept what we have, the Chiefs will never win.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6962341)

Cassel hasn't been anywhere near as bad as he's been portrayed on this board.

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6962102)

While he was here in KC for one season, he did play in NE for a season, if I am not mistaken, and numberous of posters here, before and during the 2009 season pointed out the flaws that Cassel had during his time in NE, and that has carried over here to KC. Namely the issue here is that he holds on to the ball too long/unaware of his surroundings that he takes unacceptable sacks.

Last year, he was given a chance, especially at a stage where the offensive line play was actually better during the end of the season, and that Charles became a legitimate playmaker that the Chiefs needed in a bad way. The first half of the 2009 season, I gave him several passes due to the fact that our offensive line play was a big steaming pile of shit, and Larry Johnson's infamous 2.7 YPC, and the receivers was also full of steaming pile of shit as well.

Now when the offensive line play was improved at the end of the season, awful as it may seem, just barely passable, plus with the addition of Charles of having a legitimate threat to score whenever he touches the ball, you'd think with those two improvements, the QB play should have improved, other than having a steaming pile of shit receiving corps. Unfortunately, with the improvement of offensive line play and the addition of Charles, Cassel's play actually was worse.

On Oct 26 in 2009, is the date that Larry Johnson's twitter incident came into light. That set the motions of him getting suspended and having his ass cut, which prompted Charles into the starting role in November. Before Charles, the Chiefs total rushing, as a team, before Week 10 (since there are 16 games, split it to 2 8 games), was 788 yards on 208 attempts, which translate into a 3.8 YPC.

During that first 8 games, Cassel's numbers was 125 completions, 225 attempts (55.6 comp. %) for 1256 yards. 5.58 YPC, 10 TD's, 5 INT's with a QB rating of 77.2. Given the situation and offensive line play, along with Larry Johnson not contributing to anything, it's "passable" considering the situation(s) involved.

Now, the last 8 games of the season, as a team, from Week 10 to 17, the Chiefs total rushing, as a team, was 219 attempts for 1148 yards, a 5.2 YPC. Some of this can be contributed to Charles, but also better line play as well.

During that last 8 games, Cassel's numbers was 146 completions, 268 attempts (54.5 comp. %) for 1668 yards. 6.22 YPC, 6 TD's, 11 INT's with a QB rating of 63.8. That is unacceptable due to the fact that the offensive line play gotten better and having Charles being involved.

His numbers did not improve, which it SHOULD have when the line play was better and Charles was doing something that Larry Johnson couldn't do. Cassel's play DID not improve, in fact, it actually regressed worse than his first 8 games. Had his numbers stayed the same or shown SOME improvement, he wouldn't have this much criticism on the board.

And finally, as far as the GM is concerned, the first year during his watch was an abortion of all ages. Drafting Tyson Jackson? Ouch, that's going to hurt this franchise more than it's going to do good. McGee? Brutal. It's really sad that the only person that actually had more value than he was slotted in his pick was Succop. Giving Cassel that big contract, even though he was under KC's control for the next two years during that time, if I am not mistaken. And finally, it was really sad just to have the twitter incident was probably the final straw that had to make him get rid of him. I would have gotten rid of LJ by week 4/5 since it was apparent he was done. But the Chiefs had to drag it out till Week 9, unfortunately.

The second year, the jury is still out on that, but, it has shown some promise. This year's draft picks may (or may not, depending on who you speak to) be one of the good draft picks KC had in some time. Berry, that's obvious. McCluster, I liked the pick. Arenas, I also liked the pick. We all saw what he's capable of doing on special teams, and I think he'll develop into a nice fine nickel corner. Kendrick Lewis is looking like a good pick, based of his play on pre-season. Again, I know it's early, but in my opinion, it is favorable so far. Still does not take out the sting of drafting Jackson though.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6962485)

Doesn't matter. The deep receivers could all have dropped dead of heart attacks and people here would still be complaining about Cassel. It's not about figuring out what happened. It's about bitching about Cassel.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6962510)

bowe was the right read there, he had a lb iirc running with his back to the qb and had a step on the defender covering him. he was open when the ball left matts hand.
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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6962507)

I touched the issue on this thread.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...232598&page=19

But will copy and paste it on here, just to save everybody the trouble.

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6962539)

our 63 million dollar franchise QB, who by consensus is surrounded by new 'playmakers' in DMC and Brokaki, earns a 64 QB rating in his longest outing of the preseason in which he throws for 85 yards (including a gift int on the goal line that a ham handed LB dropped)...

and he's being praised, and simultaneously absolved of all responsibility, by his fart sniffing pats fan stalker...


can someone explain how a QB puts up such shit numbers and is then praised for playing well?

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 6962134)

Nothing about the checkdown, knocked down, drifting back INTO the pocket ****ING flea flicker?

That play transcended Benny Hill to an impromptu Fellini film.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6962579)

Expecting Brokaki to catch that ball is laughable. A better approach would be not to expect your "franchise" QB to complicate a horrible decision by throwing a horrible ball.

And if Cassel is still "suffering" from poor line play at the beginning of last year, he's a bigger waste than I assumed.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6962496)

yep just watched it again.

chambers was covered even trent said so.

cassel didnt wander anywhere. he stepped into the throw to chambers and didnt throw it. then he stutter stepped and threw it to bowe on a crossing route. the line let the defender knock it down.

but the long ball (chambers) had two defenders in the area.
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