ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Players that outplayed epectations tonight (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=233440)

pkane 09-14-2010 02:27 AM

On a unrelated side note.... We were not penalized to often tonight.

BossChief 09-14-2010 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7004078)
Richardson was up and down (and when he was down, it was really down), but I didn't notice Albert at all, which means he was probably fine. I don't think we have any issues at LT.

Still too much pressure from the right and in my opinion up the middle.

Richardson is pretty good when he engages the man he is supposed to block, trouble is he doesn't always know who that is.

That's part of the reason he got benched his final year in college in favor of a true freshman iirc. If that isn't fixed by now, it likely wont ever be.

JMO

Saccopoo 09-14-2010 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7004077)
give this shit a rest already.

Richardson is junk IMO and always will be. He doesnt have the mind of a guy that always knows who to block...but Albert didnt have a bad game and is FAR from the worst at his position in the NFL.

They should spend a 3rd-5th on a RT, but nothing higher.

We will need a starter opposite Bowe, another pass rusher, a quarterback and a young nose guard to groom under Romeo before we even think about drafting a OL in the first two rounds again.

What do you mean again? Albert, who played exclusively at guard in college, was our first, first round pick as an offensive lineman since John Tait. Other than that, including Jon Asamoah, the Chiefs, over the last 12 years, have spent a grand total of three draft picks on the offensive line in the first three rounds. And that includes Tait, Albert and Asamoah.

That's not really "again" in my book.

They could really invest in a few solid players at an important position. But maybe that's just me thinking that way.

BossChief 09-14-2010 02:36 AM

Albert - first rounder (hence the term "again" as this is the ONLY OL position that should EVER warrant a first rounder, even a 2nd rounder unless a superb talent falls and we cant pass on him)
Waters - aging vet that likely already has his replacement in house in either Asamoah or Lilja
Weigman - we need to draft a replacement, but no earlier than the third round. I wanted Tennant, but the guys we took there are looking like fine football players at first glance and the pocket was there tonight, Cassels pocket awareness wasnt.
Lilja - see: Waters
Richardson - draft his replacement in the third or later, I have no problems.

IMO we have 3/5 OL filled already with long term replacements and we need to invest, at max, a couple thirds in the next couple drafts on the other 2.

Calling for any more high picks on this line is overkill.

Put a qb behind this line that is even average and this line is just fine.

Just the way I see it.

mcan 09-14-2010 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7004071)
Believe it or just, they just about did. There were 49 Chiefs plays and he had 12 touches.

Ugh.. That's an ugly, ugly, FUGLY stat. We only had 49 snaps? That's gotta improve. Just curious: how many did san diego have? I was gonna add to my T.O.P. argument by saying that we probably had a similar number of plays going into the last 5 minutes of the game, but since we ran no huddle, and they were mostly taking till -1 sec to snap the ball... :)

Now I'm thinking I might have been WAY off on my instinctual assumption. Did they hit 65 plays?

jaa1025 09-14-2010 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcan (Post 7004094)
Ugh.. That's an ugly, ugly, FUGLY stat. We only had 49 snaps? That's gotta improve. Just curious: how many did san diego have? I was gonna add to my T.O.P. argument by saying that we probably had a similar number of plays going into the last 5 minutes of the game, but since we ran no huddle, and they were mostly taking till -1 sec to snap the ball... :)

Now I'm thinking I might have been WAY off on my instinctual assumption. Did they hit 65 plays?

SD had 70 total offensive plays to our 49.

mcan 09-14-2010 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 7004099)
SD had 70 total offensive plays to our 49.

That is just a BRUTAL stat. We have much room for improvement.

BryanBusby 09-14-2010 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkane (Post 7004081)
On a unrelated side note.... We were not penalized to often tonight.

The more important thing was they didn't turn the damn ball over, finally.

Saccopoo 09-14-2010 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7004090)
Albert - first rounder (hence the term "again" as this is the ONLY OL position that should EVER warrant a first rounder, even a 2nd rounder unless a superb talent falls and we cant pass on him)
Waters - aging vet that likely already has his replacement in house in either Asamoah or Lilja
Weigman - we need to draft a replacement, but no earlier than the third round. I wanted Tennant, but the guys we took there are looking like fine football players at first glance and the pocket was there tonight, Cassels pocket awareness wasnt.
Lilja - see: Waters
Richardson - draft his replacement in the third or later, I have no problems.

IMO we have 3/5 OL filled already with long term replacements and we need to invest, at max, a couple thirds in the next couple drafts on the other 2.

Calling for any more high picks on this line is overkill.

Put a qb behind this line that is even average and this line is just fine.

Just the way I see it.

LT: Albert sucks. Period. He doesn't have the skill set to be able to play left tackle at this level. As such, we need a left tackle. They ain't cheap and usually require absolute luck in getting one cheap in the draft or committing to one in the first round, and usually high in the first round. That's how it is.

LG: Waters is old. We drafted a RG in Asamoah. We signed a RG in Lilja. Still need a LG. Wait a minute...Albert was a LG in college playing next to two legitimate first round left tackles in Fergusson and Monroe. Perhaps Albert could actually slide over and play a position he's more suited for...perhpas.

C: Weigmann is old. Niswanger isn't good. Other than that, we don't have any qualified center on roster. I wanted Tennant as well, and he was there in the fifth. I can only hope that Pioli is smart enough to read this board and check my suggestions/hopes that I recently put up on the Draft Planet. Baxter from Arizona would be nice. (Though I wouldn't have been disappointed if the Chiefs traded down two years ago and selected Alex Mack.)

RG: Completely stocked position. Lilja and Asamoah.

RT: O'Murphy and Richardson. Holy shit.

That's not respectable. That's tragic from a future perspective. Other than RG. Has anyone thought about trying Asamoah out at RT?

jaa1025 09-14-2010 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7004104)
LT: Albert sucks. Period. He doesn't have the skill set to be able to play left tackle at this level. As such, we need a left tackle. They ain't cheap and usually require absolute luck in getting one cheap in the draft or committing to one in the first round, and usually high in the first round. That's how it is.

LG: Waters is old. We drafted a RG in Asamoah. We signed a RG in Lilja. Still need a LG. Wait a minute...Albert was a LG in college playing next to two legitimate first round left tackles in Fergusson and Monroe. Perhaps Albert could actually slide over and play a position he's more suited for...perhpas.

C: Weigmann is old. Niswanger isn't good. Other than that, we don't have any qualified center on roster. I wanted Tennant as well, and he was there in the fifth. I can only hope that Pioli is smart enough to read this board and check my suggestions/hopes that I recently put up on the Draft Planet. Baxter from Arizona would be nice. (Though I wouldn't have been disappointed if the Chiefs traded down two years ago and selected Alex Mack.)

RG: Completely stocked position. Lilja and Asamoah.

RT: O'Murphy and Richardson. Holy shit.

That's not respectable. That's tragic from a future perspective. Other than RG. Has anyone thought about trying Asamoah out at RT?

Albert played well. He's our LT and unless Ogden comes a long we should not replace him there. A QB would be much better option for the 1st round.

LG, We have Asamoah that will take over once Waters leaves/retires

C, needs to be addressed in the draft because Niswanger is a guard and not a center and Weigmann will likely retire at the end of this year.

RG, Lilja is 28 and still has plenty in the tank...a lot of time to develop a young late round pick.

RT, Richardson played ok...not great, not good but a lot better than previously. He'll be fine here.

pkane 09-14-2010 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 7004103)
The more important thing was they didn't turn the damn ball over, finally.

true

the Talking Can 09-14-2010 05:08 AM

jesus basically everyone


Dorsey was a revelation

the Talking Can 09-14-2010 05:12 AM

and belcher hit some mother ****ers hard


like 'take that you mother****er' hits

Chiefnj2 09-14-2010 05:19 AM

The entire defense, with the exception of Eric Berry, played much better than expected (once Romeo remembered to cover Gates).

I do think they should play more man defense. The zone was letting Rivers move the ball a lot, but I guess Romeo will play his bend but don't break scheme.

The offensive line was good at run blocking, average at pass blocking. Cassel was bad. As far as I could tell from the limited television angles, the receivers weren't getting that much separation, so I'll say they did poorly as a group (with a few drops as wel). Running backs were good, returners were phenomenal.

the Talking Can 09-14-2010 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7004052)
5. Shawn Smith
- We all complained about a lack of a quality NT, and decided to overlook/ignore the signing of a guy who was, at one point, considered one of the better nose tackles in the NFL. The guy generated a push up the middle nearly every time he was in holding two blockers in the process. Dorsey and Jackson looked like near studs playing next to a legitimate 3-4 NT.
.


Smith filled in credibly at DE when Jackson went out, as well, i thought


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.