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chiefs1okie 09-30-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7051636)
You mean like Singletary ! Good point.

:LOL::LOL::LOL: THIS.

R&GHomer 09-30-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry (Post 7051422)
Good stuff indeed, props to the writer of the article and props to ROR for finding this article...Haley is learning and accepting new ideas from many sources.

Haley is maturing as a head coach.

I don't disagree that Haley is maturing as a head coach "He should as long as he's the head coach" I would hope, as a measure of his character that he never stops striving to be better.

What surprises me is that so many people don't seem to recognize "IMHO" that most of his actions to date have been part of the plan. Decided on from the moment he accepted the job. BUILD A TEAM!

Not unlike the military s boot camp. A group of individuals "and we had a bunch" from whatever background... are all going to be accountable by one standard. You break them down, never faltering from treating everyone the same. Eventually the ones that just wont conform get weeded out and you're left with the foundation.

Slowly but surely you start building, one step at a time. Will some falter and start slipping back into bad habits? Sure! but at some point the light flips on and as a group you start to realize that... Hey all this yelling, cussing and hard work aren't because the drill sergeant "coach" is a complete mental dick head. He's teaching us what's necessary to survive "Win".

The light didn't flip on with Haley after the Pittsburgh game. The light flipped on for our team. Haley is acting like a leader. Have we arrived, hell no, but I for one commend this organization from the top down. They have a plan, and they are sticking with it.

Proud to be a Chiefs Fan!!

Rooster 09-30-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7050960)
"It's easy to grin / When your ship comes in / And you've got the stock market beat. / But the man worthwhile, / Is the man who can smile, / When his shorts are too tight in the seat." - Judge Smails

ROFLROFL Get your foot off the boat Spalding...

Contrarian 09-30-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LOCOChief (Post 7051172)
I disagree with this. What was he to do come in and start celebrating with the players right off the bat when there was clearly nothing to celebrate? No he let them know that complacency was not tolerated, dumb play was not tolerated, not giving 110% effort would not be tolerated and you had to earn his respect by not giving up on your teammates.

I've had the fortune to be part of a successful "turn around" and I was happy with his approach from day 1, regardless if a few guys were butt hurt (I really don't give a shit about that) and in the end they don't either.

PS. not all these guys are grown men and they're getting paid millions to play a game.

Absolutely agree!
Many on this post think that what Haley is doing this year is due to his bad guy reputation last year. That is bullshit. It's leadership 101. That is what you do with a non productive lazy group of people that have become used to what they think they are and are satisfied. Losers.
How many times have you worked somewhere and your company hires a significant someone to come in and manage the old group of people that have grown used to their surroundings and the way the company operates?
Just to see that new manager clean house, change the expectations, and hire hungrier more qualified individuals to produce at a hire level. Then implement innovative ways to build their team structure.
It's all part of the plan.

allen_kcCard 09-30-2010 03:55 PM

100% agree with the above posts as well.

It is even complete with an old school person that tried to tell the new guys "how we do things around here" and them being made an example of. Good thing is that in this case that guy put on his big boy pants and got with the program and is doing well now. LJ, Page, and Pollard are examples of guys that I see as a byproduct of the changes and they are gone now because they were not getting with the new way of doing things or couldn't cut it.

TheGuardian 09-30-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 7050966)
How many times did we hear or read last year.... Haley is going to lose this team .....

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

You mean from Mecca? About a zillion.

I loved the Haley hire when it happened. Dude is going to be great.

Otter 09-30-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer (Post 7051669)
I don't disagree that Haley is maturing as a head coach "He should as long as he's the head coach" I would hope, as a measure of his character that he never stops striving to be better.

What surprises me is that so many people don't seem to recognize "IMHO" that most of his actions to date have been part of the plan. Decided on from the moment he accepted the job. BUILD A TEAM!

Not unlike the military s boot camp. A group of individuals "and we had a bunch" from whatever background... are all going to be accountable by one standard. You break them down, never faltering from treating everyone the same. Eventually the ones that just wont conform get weeded out and you're left with the foundation.

Slowly but surely you start building, one step at a time. Will some falter and start slipping back into bad habits? Sure! but at some point the light flips on and as a group you start to realize that... Hey all this yelling, cussing and hard work aren't because the drill sergeant "coach" is a complete mental dick head. He's teaching us what's necessary to survive "Win".

The light didn't flip on with Haley after the Pittsburgh game. The light flipped on for our team. Haley is acting like a leader. Have we arrived, hell no, but I for one commend this organization from the top down. They have a plan, and they are sticking with it.

Proud to be a Chiefs Fan!!

Are you new here? People are finding way to complain about being 3-0.

If the Chiefs stumbled upon building a car that ran on water some people would be bitching that their going to make everyone die of thirst.

I was tickled pink when they showed Carl the door and brought in smart, young guys from outside 'the circle of mediocrity'. That right there was enough to make me shut up and see what happens.

Now if they would just draft and develop a QB! :mad:

:D

MatriculatingHank 09-30-2010 04:02 PM

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penchief 09-30-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7051040)
And when he was acting like a horse's ass last year, they didn't perform.

Like Metro said, this year he's celebrating with his players instead of blowing them off. He's not a raving lunatic on the sideline.

I don't think it's just coincidence that this team started coming together last year after the Pittsburgh game, where from that point on, "Psycho Todd" disappeared and "Normal Todd" appeared.

All of this shit was exaggerated last year because too many people were injecting their own agenda, ala Whitlock. So much of what was said had no basis in reality. I really don't think his fundamental approach has changed much at all. Even last year you could see players on the sideline gravitate toward him when they experienced any measure of success. Even guys who supposedly had reason to dislike him, like Bowe and DJ.

Last year he had to break this team down. This year he's building it up the way he envisioned. I think it's too easy for people who were too shortsighted in their premature evaluation of Todd Haley to say that the reason Haley is experiencing success now is because he changed his ways. I think any success he is experiencing is because he stuck to his guns. The process is now in a stage that calls for a different tack than what was needed when this team was a bunch of self-entitled pussies.

blazzin311 09-30-2010 04:30 PM

Nice read. Better than some of the other Chiefs articles some of these clueless nit-wit writers come up with. :clap:

OnTheWarpath15 09-30-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 7052070)
All of this shit was exaggerated last year because too many people were injecting their own agenda, ala Whitlock.

What?

Exaggerated?

We all watch it with our own two eyes, either on the TV broadcast, or live at Arrowhead.

Hell, Clayton devoted an entire "GIF'd UP" to Haley raving like a lunatic on the sidelines.

Don't act like it didn't happen - it did.

And thankfully, his Dad or someone else got to him, he woke the **** up, and now he acts like a leader.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, some of you watch too much Friday Night Lights.

You can be a leader and change a culture without treating people like shit.

penchief 09-30-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7052096)
What?

Exaggerated?

We all watch it with our own two eyes, either on the TV broadcast, or live at Arrowhead.

Hell, Clayton devoted an entire "GIF'd UP" to Haley raving like a lunatic on the sidelines.

Don't act like it didn't happen - it did.

And thankfully, his Dad or someone else got to him, he woke the **** up, and now he acts like a leader.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, some of you watch too much Friday Night Lights.

You can be a leader and change a culture without treating people like shit.

The impact of his actions were most certainly exaggerated. He never lost this team as people were saying. Coaches getting emotional on the sidelines is nothing earthshattering. Too many people exaggerated the impact of Haley's behavior in order to fuel their own opinions.

Anyone with two eyes could see that Haley was exactly what this team needed. And anyone with forsight would have seen better times coming. It's just that some people have to present themselves as smarter than everyone else by trying to be the first to tear something down before it even has a chance to work.

OnTheWarpath15 09-30-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 7052108)
The impact of his actions were most certainly exaggerated. He never lost this team as people were saying. Coaches getting emotional on the sidelines is nothing earthshattering. Too many people exaggerated the impact of Haley's behavior in order to fuel their own opinions.

Anyone with two eyes could see that Haley was exactly what this team needed. And anyone with forsight would have seen better times coming. It's just that some people have to present themselves as smarter than everyone else by trying to be the first to tear something down before it even has a chance to work.

LMAO

"Getting emotional."

Yeah, that's all it was.

If you want to go through life thinking that MFing a bunch of grown men is a way to get their respect - to get them to buy in, go right ahead.

I know better.

Hammock Parties 09-30-2010 05:10 PM

I love the fact that Haley texts Flowers and tells him Revis is better.

LOL

Probably one a week, that text comes, like a thief in the night. And it pisses Flowers RIGHT off.

That's funny.

(Herm doesn't text, the ****er).

penchief 09-30-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7052139)
LMAO

"Getting emotional."

Yeah, that's all it was.

If you want to go through life thinking that MFing a bunch of grown men is a way to get their respect - to get them to buy in, go right ahead.

I know better.

It appears he had their respect. To say otherwise is to do so without any basis in anything other than personal opinion. Yet there were many like you who whined and bitched about something you had no real insight about. Only speculation and your own agenda.


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