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ShortRoundChief 10-02-2010 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 7056219)
LeBeau and Robinson don't belong in the same sentence.
Nor the same book....

EyePod 10-02-2010 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7055601)
I am unable to comprehend the logic.

A pressure typically results in an incompletion and a new down at the original LOS.

A sack typically results in loss of yardage and a beat-to-crap quarterback.

FAX
I think that sacks are less reproducible. Pressure means that you're in the backfield causing issues. Sacks are icing on the cake.

KCSupersized 10-02-2010 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7056043)
I saw that and laughed out loud at Lebeau's answer. Basically he said, "Pressure is more important. If you get pressure, you're also going to get some sacks."

If I remember my set theory from seventh grade math, if you get sacks, you're always going to get pressure. If you get pressure, you're sometimes going to get sacks. The whole question is dumb. Sacks are a subset of pressure and produce a better result, so no one except Lebeau and maybe Greg Robinson would prefer pressure over sacks.
This is basically the way i see it.

EyePod 10-02-2010 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 7055613)
constant pressure is better than an occasional sack but obviously a sack is better than pressure..I've seen a lot of plays where the qb was pressured and threw a td pass or a long completion....usually against us
This reminds me of Football Outsiders statistics. They favor consistent RB's who gain 4 yards rather than homerun ones who break a 20 yarder every now and then without the consistency.

EyePod 10-02-2010 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 7056107)
I don't understand what's to comprehend here. Consistant pressure can effect every play. If you're very lucky you'll get 5 or 6 sacks. I'd rather see that my defense pressured a guy all game then to see they got 6 sacks from 15 pressures. Duh.
It's similar to FF. Recovering them is basically random. It's not something that's practice-able or trainable.

crossbow 10-02-2010 09:19 PM
QB can't complete a pass when he is on his back. He can't throw an interception after he is sacked either. I can see the benefit of both but would rather get a sack if he was passing on 1st or 2nd down so you can have a chance at an INT on third and long. I definately want a sack if it takes them out of field goal range and forces a punt.

Marcellus 10-02-2010 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 7056397)
This reminds me of Football Outsiders statistics. They favor consistent RB's who gain 4 yards rather than homerun ones who break a 20 yarder every now and then without the consistency.
Charles needs more carries.

EyePod 10-02-2010 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7056411)
Charles needs more carries.
See, he's the best of both worlds. Consistently great and a homerun threat. Very Chris Johnson-like.

KChiefs1 10-02-2010 09:52 PM
"The QB must go down & must go down HARD."

FAX 10-02-2010 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 7056392)
I think that sacks are less reproducible. Pressure means that you're in the backfield causing issues. Sacks are icing on the cake.
I get the idea the "pressure" is good. I'm just not sure it's as good as a "sack".

You know, given the rules of the game and all.

FAX

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-02-2010 11:14 PM
I love the excitement of sacks, but continuous disruption of the QB's timing and hard hits at the release of the ball seem to be a more disruptive element.

cosmo20002 10-02-2010 11:45 PM
Next up for debate--Which is better for the defense:

No gain or 10-yard loss?
2nd & 10 or 3rd & 20?
Touchdown or Field Goal?
Field Goal or punt?

Ridiculous question


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