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Saccopoo 10-10-2010 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7077877)
No one wants to go on record about Ponder?
He's smart (he already has his master in business administration degree), has an NFL ready physique, has a great pocket presence and excellent footwork. He doesn't have a cannon for an arm, but it's most likely good enough for this offense.

He'd be a great pick for the Chiefs.

However, I don't think he'll get past the top ten if some of the underclassmen don't declare. Right now, he's a close second to Locker.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2010 05:51 PM
Cassel will mix in a couple of pad the stats games for sure. He'll hit 3K easy I bet.

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7077772)
You apparently weren't paying attention when we had the opportunity to draft a franchise QB under the new regime.

We took another teams' garbage.

Expect more of the same.
There were a lot of things we reversed course on too this season. I would be absolutely stunned if we don't walk into the 2011 season with a QB we believe can legitimately compete for the starting QB job. Barring Cassel somehow doing a complete turnaround, which is pretty unlikely. Cassel aside, this does seem to be an organization that has done a good job learning from their mistakes.

ArrowheadMagic 10-10-2010 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7077848)
Catch what? That people around here are "let's draft Luck" next year and the guy is a ****ing sophomore?

I simply posted the senior QB class as no one else has (obviously) declared and anything beyond that senior class is purely conjecture. And I also know we need a QB. Cassel isn't very good.

I mean, really - what's the point of your post quoted above. That you are so ****ing amazingly observant that you can actually spot a double post? Wow! You must be ****ing Sherlock Holmes. I'm sure that the entire board is amazed by your perceptive skills and quick wit. I know I am.

The only thing I hope you catch is a case of herpes from your mom.

Luck is a redshirt soph, therefore draft eligible. 2 yrs as a starter in the Pac 10 should be proof he is NFL ready. Or do you doubt that?

OnTheWarpath15 10-10-2010 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7078063)
There were a lot of things we reversed course on too this season. I would be absolutely stunned if we don't walk into the 2011 season with a QB we believe can legitimately compete for the starting QB job. Barring Cassel somehow doing a complete turnaround, which is pretty unlikely. Cassel aside, this does seem to be an organization that has done a good job learning from their mistakes.
Who's "we?"

We the fans?

Or we the organization?

Because it's not like the latter thought that Cassel was that guy.

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7077808)
Well the best backup QB on the market will be Shaun Hill. Kansas native and his offseason home is at the Lake of the Ozarks.
http://blogs.kansas.com/statecollege.../ShaunHill.jpg
What I was thinking too. Either him or Tarvaris Jackson. I'd even consider a trade for Kevin Kolb for maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder (hell, I'd start calling the Eagles today). I'd also imagine we'll make a run at Brady Quinn (is he a free agent?--not the guy I'd want, just saying it's something they'd explore)

All of this I hope, of course, is only to provide a veteran presence so you don't rush a rookie that's not ready. No matter what, you have to use your first round pick on a QB.

milkman 10-10-2010 06:12 PM
Brady Quinn?

LMAO

pr_capone 10-10-2010 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7078075)
What I was thinking too. Either him or Tarvaris Jackson. I'd even consider a trade for Kevin Kolb for maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder (hell, I'd start calling the Eagles today).

I'd also imagine we'll make a run at Brady Quinn (is he a free agent?--not the guy I'd want, just saying it's something they'd explore)
No.

No, No, No, No, HELL THE **** NO.

ArrowheadMagic 10-10-2010 06:14 PM
yes, lets trade away picks for guys that have done nothing. Or do you think the teams that own their rights, are dumber than you? How are any of those backups better than Cassel? They arent the starters on their teams for a reason.

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7078067)
Who's "we?"

We the fans?

Or we the organization?

Because it's not like the latter thought that Cassel was that guy.
Let's not pretend that we the fans have been bulletproof. The front office has been heavily criticized for a lot of really good moves that we the fans strongly disapproved of.

The Cassel move was a huge mistake, as was a lot of 2009 personnel decisions we're still paying the price for. But based on how we approached 2010, I don't see anything that suggests that this organization is too stubborn to admit a mistake.

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7078085)
Brady Quinn?

LMAO
Like I said, not the guy I want. But based on his history with Charlie Weis, I'd have to think the Chiefs explore him if they get him without having to give up picks. I was one of Quinn's bigger critics when we were considering trading for him a few months ago.

OnTheWarpath15 10-10-2010 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7078094)
Let's not pretend that we the fans have been bulletproof. The front office has been heavily criticized for a lot of really good moves that we the fans strongly disapproved of.

The Cassel move was a huge mistake, as was a lot of 2009 personnel decisions we're still paying the price for. But based on how we approached 2010, I don't see anything that suggests that this organization is too stubborn to admit a mistake.
Admitting a mistake at NCB or TE isn't the same as admitting a mistake at the most important position on the field.

Especially when the guy in question was your first ever decision as a GM.

Sully 10-10-2010 06:19 PM
3rd for Skelton.

ArrowheadMagic 10-10-2010 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7078085)
Brady Quinn?

LMAO
Whats so funny? You want McGee who's upside is Cassel.

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 7078089)
yes, lets trade away picks for guys that have done nothing. Or do you think the teams that own their rights, are dumber than you? How are any of those backups better than Cassel? They arent the starters on their teams for a reason.
Kolb, Hill, and possibly Jackson are no worse than Matt Cassel. They aren't starting because Vick, Stafford, and Favre are a lot better than Brodie Croyle.

I'd be very interested in Kolb + draft a 2011 QB. I don't know why people are so down on Kolb. I think he could have quite a bit of upside in a Charlie Weis offense.


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