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Chiefnj2 10-18-2010 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7099150)
I think his hands flew up because he was trying to keep his balance, and he couldn't play the man any tighter because the man had just created separation with a shove to the back. Now, if Johnson had stayed inbounds and Flowers spent more time looking for a flag instead of tackling him, I think that criticism would be justified.

I still think he threw his arms up to complain.

MOhillbilly 10-18-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7099135)
Flowers should have concentrated on trying to keep playing the ball and the man, instead of throwing his hands up and looking for a ref.

really?

siberian khatru 10-18-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7099181)
I still think he threw his arms up to complain.

OK, to be fair, I'll split the difference.

He threw up his arms to complain. But he couldn't play the man closer because Johnson had achieved illegal separation.

Frazod 10-18-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7099110)
Wow, you are an idiotic ****tard.

Choke on a dick, reerun. Shitty defense and shitty playcalling killed us in the end. Now why don't you return to your fingerpainting?

Chiefnj2 10-18-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7099184)
OK, to be fair, I'll split the difference.

He threw up his arms to complain. But he couldn't play the man closer because Johnson had achieved illegal separation.

Michael Irvin made it to the Hall of Fame doing the same thing. Good, big, strong receivers will do a 1 arm push off and it isn't called the majority of time.

RockChalk 10-18-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 7099100)
There was a point in the broadcast where one of the announcers when he thought he was off air uttered the following: "Ron Winters crew always brings an extra bucket of flags"...

I heard this. It was early in the game and Gus said it.

siberian khatru 10-18-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7099188)
Michael Irvin made it to the Hall of Fame doing the same thing. Good, big, strong receivers will do a 1 arm push off and it isn't called the majority of time.

You're absolutely right about Irvin. But the irony of the rest of your post is that OPI WAS called multiple times in later games Sunday. :grr:

Frazod 10-18-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7099098)
Clearly an ax to grind with Weis.

At this point, you bet. Apparently he doesn't learn from his mistakes. He pulled the same shit toward the end of the Indy game. That wasn't quite as egregious, but it should have been enough to register.

Mr. Arrowhead 10-18-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7099188)
Michael Irvin made it to the Hall of Fame doing the same thing. Good, big, strong receivers will do a 1 arm push off and it isn't called the majority of time.

offensive pass inference is called more now, than when Irvin played

Chiefnj2 10-18-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7099191)
You're absolutely right about Irvin. But the irony of the rest of your post is that OPI WAS called multiple times in later games Sunday. :grr:

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but it wasn't a big push. That type of hand, and single arm jostling happens on almost every play.

stevieray 10-18-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7099188)
Michael Irvin made it to the Hall of Fame doing the same thing. Good, big, strong receivers will do a 1 arm push off and it isn't called the majority of time.

if you need to push off, you aren't a good WR.

The Bad Guy 10-18-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7099192)
At this point, you bet. Apparently he doesn't learn from his mistakes. He pulled the same shit toward the end of the Indy game. That wasn't quite as egregious, but it should have been enough to register.

Everyone is making this out to be the worst playcall in modern history.

It was bad.

What was worse was Cassel's read on it. He had Bowe, who he targeted all game breaking open.

I have zero problems with the game Weis called.

BigMeatballDave 10-18-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7099088)
As I've said all along, I hang this loss on that idiot Weis

We put up more than 400 yrds of O. I dont quite understand your hate here. If its solely for the 3rd and 2 call, then fine. But, the bulk of your anger for that play should be at Cassel for making a terrible throw, or missing Bowe coming across.

B_Ambuehl 10-18-2010 08:53 AM

Flowers got called for an arm bar. Watch the replay again. Before Johnson ever pushes off Flowers is impeding his progress with his right arm as he turns back to look for the ball.

Frazod 10-18-2010 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7099197)
Everyone is making this out to be the worst playcall in modern history.

It was bad.

What was worse was Cassel's read on it. He had Bowe, who he targeted all game breaking open.

I have zero problems with the game Weis called.

Again, the game's on the line - whose number are you going to call? The playmaker, or the playbreaker? As Clint Eastwood might say, a man's got to know his limitations.

It was beyond bad. It was mindless and it cost us the game. And when I say that, I mean the wretched defense would have been overcome and the terrible blown call would have never happened had we just rushed for those two yards. No one will ever convince me otherwise.


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